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The New New JaDeveon Clowney Thread

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  1. Texansphan

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    Our offense could light it up this next season - it wouldn't take much to get back to scoring >30 points a game again.
     
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    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    I'd love to regain the confidence in Obrien that I had when he was first hired.

    Seems that he just keep shooting himself in the foot.

    :coffee:
     
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    Yes, 2018 game avg was 25.1 ranked 11th and an increase of 5 PPG would be fantastic. I'm unsure if defense can maintain 19.8 allowed but realistic at least.
     
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    OB over promises and under delivers. A sure sign of a charlatan.
     
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    leebigeztx Keep it Movin!

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    If teams are drafting high in the draft, they don't care how well a guy plays the run if he's sacking the qb and knocking him to the ground. If I started naming the top flight defensive ends in the NFL, how are going to be followed by run stuffer?
     
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    I think next year this team will be in a lot of shootouts with the QBs they are facing. Add in the hope that WRs stay healthy along with revamped TE, OL and healthy Foreman and this offense could be Chiefs elite.
     
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    JJ Watt for one. If you already have one great pass rusher, you want another dominant DL that can rush the passer, which Clowney is. Not to mention he was the consensus #1 pick in 2014
     
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    I know this goes against the narrative but the thing that impresses me with both Clowney & Watt is how often they make plays on the opposite side of the line. They blow by the scrum and nail people opposite side. Doesn't show up on the stat sheet but friggin bulldog move should be acknowledged. You could make a highlight reel of those two nailing backs at or behind the opposite TE/OT.
     
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    If Clowney could only learn JJ's swim move
     
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    Can anyone maintain full speed while swimming like JJ? Last time I saw that was Randy White, The Manster. But yes.
     
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    We've been spoiled. Cushing & Demeco were the same.
     
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    They both had what can't be measured at the combine, football instinct. They, especially DeMeco, played faster because they were half a second in front of everyone understanding what was happening.

    They should have been the backbone of the D for a decade and one of the greatest pair of LBs. Just got fu@ked on injuries.
     
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    I miss DeMeco. Wish they would’ve found a way to keep him longer. He was a great mentor to Cushing and excellent leader of defense while here.

    Currently LB coach for 49ers. interested to see if he rises through ranks like another smart instinctive player turned coach in Vrabel.
     
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    DeMeco knew which gap a RB was going to hit before the RB did.

    I'm not big on claiming great players will make coaches. The two I have seen from the Texans are Aaron Glenn & DeMeco. Maybe AJ, he's not a natural speaker but he put so much into refining his craft over the years he may be able to teach it as well.

    Glenn used to huddle up the DBs between series and school them even when it wasn't his job. Dunta's rookie season you'd always see Glenn on the sideline hands illustrating like a fighter pilot.

    Guys who are students of the game can become coaches. Just got by on athleticism, even if great, not so much. You can't teach "run faster." Glenn absolutely could teach how to rub a WR and not draw a flag. Little dude could have his head looking at the QB while forcing the WR to the sideline. Inside hand on hip just nudging, then elbow coming up "going for the ball." What, who wree?
     
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    Texans mandatory minicamp starts Tuesday, but as their unsigned franchise player, Jadeveon Clowney is not expected to attend.

    — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) June 10, 2019
     
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    Glenn is one my all time favorite Texans players. He was a bright point when there weren't many for the team.
     
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    He won the Steelers game almost alone.

    But he really impressed me talking to Dunta.

    Also, and I think but don't know, he taught AJ, go talk to the refs. Glenn and then AJ would talk to the refs. Watching on TV you wouldn't see that. Glenn played the line of PI hard but the refs liked him.
     
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    So three-day minicamp this week for the team and that's it until TC starts late in July, right ?
     
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    I think so. Google didn't return a direct answer.
    One thing is they won't be going back to WV this year.
     
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    Thanks to that dirty loser Matt Slauson and that careless dildo Jamaal Charles.

    Ruined a Hall of Fame career.
     

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