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The New New JaDeveon Clowney Thread

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  1. Rich Schmidt

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    I am not sure who you are grinding on, but JDC had no contact until the season started last year and HE even admitted it takes a bit to get timing and moves and football shape (used to being hit) under his belt. To act like you come off the street no matter what you do in the gym and expect to be full sailing is full BS
     
  2. AngryNateFTW

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    Even though, there's no concrete proof it sounds like Texans are trying to trade Clowney.

    Put Mercilus back at Clowney's spot and go from there.
     
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    Rico, since you quoted me and asked I'll respond... Briefly. You have been here long enough to know what his health issues are. You also know how to read injury thread where Doc & others have given medical opinion supported by evidence. Neither I or most here fail to recognize what JD has done. I also am honest that his deterioration does and will impact his career. Some over react saying he is worthless. I heard some radio today. You overreact to things that are acknowledged by most.
     
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    I heard on the radio fwiw that they were shopping him before the draft and they have no intention of giving him the 100 mill plus extension he is looking for
     
  5. CloakNNNdagger

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    The first part I also heard..........the second part I didn't need to hear from anyone to tell you that.
     
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    This is what we do. With or without Clowney, we're going to struggle out of the gate.
     
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    I can hope that healthy wide receivers help carry us this year when the offense does their part. That is hope. What I expect and agree with you is we struggle while we build chemistry on the OL and defensive backfield. I at least think we can hit a stride this year with the talent and athleticism assembled. It could be we have a edge as there is not a lot of tape on what RAC may do with his guys that can actually man up different, so there is that.
     
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    leebigeztx Keep it Movin!

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    As stated, they should've gave Justin Houston a deal like he signed or better then trade Clowney like Seahawks and Chiefs did. Obviously teams dont have as high of an opinion on Clowney as they do Ford and Clark. No matter how good he plays the run, he was drafted #1 as a pass rushers. Right now, he's just ok as a pass rusher. He still cant bend.
     
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    This is a misconception many here seem to share with you. He was drafted to be a dominant DL which he has
     
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    i'm not so sure there is any misconception. Clowney shattered a South Carolina record for sacks, getting 13 in 2012. His 24 sacks in three seasons ranked third all-time for the school. No doubt, pass rush/sacks was what the Texans primarily saw in Clowney when they picked him #1.
     
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    We will have to agree to disagree. I don't think that they saw him as primarily a pass rusher, but as a dominant run defender that could also pressure the QBs
     
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    Are those guys normally drafted #1 overall?

    Mario, Clowney... I'm sure we were expecting pass rushers.
     
  14. ArlingtonTexan

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    What part of dominating complete does not include being a great pass rusher...clowney was to excel at both a double-digit pass rusher who could still collapse (not just set) the edge.
     
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    these are the kinds of plays I remember bringing the national spotlight on Clowney (hint: Its not a sack)
     
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    There's the rub. Some mighty fine talent drafted after clowney that has gotten paid. He was top pick in fruitful draft. He wants to get paid too. Should he??? Well obviously Texans dont think so. Yet they want maximum value in trade given Mack trade. Total mess. Hes a B++ Player. But not elite.

    Personally I think he should do what he has to do to get paid.

    From a Texan standpoint they have backed themselves into a corner.
     
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    Texans blew that draft
     
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    They are blowing this offseason as well.

    - The way they are handling the clowney situation is piss poor. Even if he does play on the tag, we may have burned the bridge between us and him.
    - I won’t judge the actual players from the draft class yet, but they got jumped for Dillard. Over nickels and pennies.
    - free agency was a huge bust in every sense of the word
    - still have a ton of money, and at this point with nothing to spend it on that would add value to our team. The team that just lost a leg in the AFC south (oh no, billy can’t coast his way to another banner of champs of the worst division in football. Bummer, he might actually be held accountable for his horrible coaching now.)
     
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    Our offense could light it up this next season - it wouldn't take much to get back to scoring >30 points a game again.
     
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