The New New JaDeveon Clowney Thread

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  1. zshawn10

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    AFC West team(s) are now involved on Clowney, Texans are listening but you gotta really Bowl them over with big time offer #NFLTradeRumor #IB

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    Clowney has a whopping 4 sacks less than Mack over the past two seasons and 12 more tackles for loss. Clowney hs 2 more QB hits. Not sure what you're watching.
     
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    Sacks are over rated.
    beat me to it.
     
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    I think it was Seth Payne who said Clowney was the best DE in the NFL vs the run .
     
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    I think this is easily the case.

    People really don’t give him enough Credit here. He doesn’t make the Flashy Watt type plays but he also is more solid against the run in his responsibilities. It’s almost impossible to run at him.

    Add on top of that he’s a pretty good pass rusher.

    That’s why I said earlier that they better have a plan to replace him because he does so much for this defense.

    Even on passing plays where he’s not accumulating stats he’s running stunts and freeing other and/or collapsing the pocket.

    Dude is a monster and if not for his knee there is 0 chance I’d even entertain trading him given how good he is and the current make up of the team.
     
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    There are two negatives about Clowney - his injury history and his discipline on the field. He gets way too many penalties and overextends on some plays. That being said, dude is a beast and without the injury concerns I would gladly give him a contract a little under what Mack got. The way it is, I am glad we used the franchise tag and I would trade him for a first and a mid-rounder...
     
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    Couldn't agree more.
    Don't understand why folks want to leave JJ Watt as the sole DL that offenses have to focus on stopping.
     
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    JD Clowney is a genuinely great athlete and a very good football player with whom we would have already reached a new long-term contract agreement some time ago if not for his unfortunate injury history.
     
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    I've watched both Clowney and Mack. Mack is by all optics a dangerous game changer.
     
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    His first step is as fast as any in the league - it's what makes him so dangerous.
     


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    His first step is as fast as any dlineman in the league - it's what makes him so dangerous.
     
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    I can't speak for all optics, but the two optics lodged in the front of my face have also seen Clowney be dangerous and change games. So..
     
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    Just thought of this and it has no merit except to see where we’re at . Would anybody trade Clowney for Leonard Fournette ?
     
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    Hervoyel BUENO!

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    I don't want Leonard Fournette so I don't think I'd consider it. I want a draft pick and ideally a #1 pick. Fournette busted loose on us when he was a rookie and that made a big impression on Texans fans but he doesn't even average 4 yards a carry and in two attempts has yet to play 16 games in a season. Yes we can replace Clowney for less money and get exactly what he gives us more or less. We can also do better than Leonard Fournette for less than he'll want I think.
     
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    NO
     
  16. frethack

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    My opinion is probably not the majority but I think Clowney is better than Mack but not by much. He does draw way too many penalties, but he plays effectively all over the line and has incredible quickness for a man his size. Dont get me wrong...I wanted Mack over Clowney in the draft and Mack is an amazing player. I'm just a Clowney convert since he took over the line in 2017.
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    I'm looking at a more fair value comparison, especially when thinking long-term contract. Clowney in the last 4 years has had 29 sacks. Mack has tallied 49 in that same period.
     
  18. Texecutioner

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    Funny that the only place you'd ever hear anyone even put them two in the same sentence would be on a Texans board. Nowhere else in the country is Clowney even mentioned in the same breath as Mack. Clowney is a good player. He won't be worth anywhere near 18 Mill a season though. If we don't trade him we are just a very stupid franchise.
     
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  19. frethack

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    As I said...my opinion.

    Binary thinking sir...its a fallacy

    I'd trade him because of the knee injury, but it would still need to be a 1st+

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    And my reply was about "your opinion." :tiphat:
     

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