The New New JaDeveon Clowney Thread

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  1. Marshall

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    After yet another thread has spiraled out of control, let us try again.

    For those who deal with Football injuries regularly, how far is being released for full non contact workouts from being released to play real football? What is the body doing in the healing process at at this point and what injuries can result if you try to short circuit this process?
     
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    I'm craving ribs. It's been a while since I smoked a rack. I think I'll drop by HEB on the way home... I'll soak some hickory tonight.
     
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    Is this Wilfork or Clowney thread?
     
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    Boxers or breifs? Discuss.
     
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    When I smoke pork, I use equal amounts of hickory, maple and apple.
     
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    I think CLOWNEY needs his ribs and should keep his.
     
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    No Mesquite?
     
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    I'm not a doctor. I'm not a pimple on a doctor's ass. But the last I recall from CnnnD's posts was that JaDeveon shouldn't be doing anything now that would give you a clue as to how well his recovery is going. His activity should gradually increase, but CnD would not expect him to be participating in full contact stuff, even late into the preseason.

    If you see him doing any "football stuff" before September, they're rushing him.

    Any swelling or pain in the knee from Jd & it's pretty much over. You don't want to hear those words in the same sentence in reference to JaDeveon Clowney. Not now, not in September, not in December, not next off season. If (& this is my own non-smart person's opinion) we make it to next season without hearing about swelling/pain in JaDeveon's knee, then we can breathe.

    Don't expect to hear too much "real" info about his recovery for the next three months. In this case, no news is good news.
     


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    Not really sure what full noncontact workouts are...........very cloudy description. But suspect true full contact is still a month or two away, since full contact requires great resistance and stress on the knee joint. At this point in time, strengthening the muscles of the legs and thighs secure stability of the knee joint will continue to be a major part of his rehab. Any instability will facilitate the grinding away of the newly formed pseudo cartilage. If brought back too soon to full contact, his long-term performance and career will be more unpredictable than his short-term performance.
     
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    I'm not either, but I would like to know about the meniscus. Does the micro-fracture surgery basically encourage it to regrow? If so, how long does it take for that to fully happen? And if he can do most stuff in the weight room he has progressed to the point that he can put force on it vertically but not laterally? I know from experience it takes a while for muscles to recover from atrophy of being in a cast, can he strengthen all the muscles in his knee and calf by this point?

    opps, Doc answered most of my question.
     
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    Or maybe a month away.
     
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    Menisci do not "grow back" with microfracture surgery. If anything, partial absence, depending of how much, may be contributory to a poorer prognosis in that it may empirically add to the instability factor.
     
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    Even moreso the lateral meniscus...

     
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    Then it is cartilage regrowing? Trying to understand the "newly formed pseudo cartilage"
     
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    Think of a heavy blood clot rubbed smooth.
     
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    Sorry, that doesn't compute... blood clots kill ya
     
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    If they are inside a vein & move... yes. Blood clots on your elbow don't. They allow the tissue beneath to heal, which is what the blood clot on Jd's bone is doing.
     
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    Here are the Texans news releases on Clowney as reported by Rotoworld:

    The Texans remain confident Clowney will be ready to contribute Week 1. May 19 - 12:39 PM

    Clowney is not expected to be ready for the beginning of training camp, but Week 1 is realistic. Apr 28 - 1:59 PM

    The Texans are targeting the "end of training camp" for OLB Jadeveon Clowney (microfracture surgery) to return to
    the football field. Apr 3 - 2:53 PM

    Clowney is expected to miss Houston's entire offseason program recovering from microfracture surgery. He should
    be ready at some point in training camp, but remains questionable for Week 1. Mar 28 - 3:37 PM

    Clowney will miss Houston's entire offseason program. Clowney needs to avoid setbacks to be ready for Week 1. Mar 25 - 7:08 PM
     
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