The Negative

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  1. m5kwatts

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    -Our defensive end situation after Mario and Antonio is a joke. Nading and Denney contribute nothing. Antonio is better inside on passing downs anyways and especially since Amobi is starting to disappear again. This team will not contend for anything if the defensive end situation remains as is. Barwin was way more valuable than we predicted. Maybe running more 3-4 when Cushing comes back is in order?

    -Turk punts too many touchbacks. I don't know if we need to work out punters but when we've needed an offense pinned deep he's always managed to punt a touchback.

    -Slaton has almost played himself out of the league. I can't figure out whats happened to him.

    -Owen does not look fast. He doesn't have explosion right now. It seems like it takes a lot more work for him to get going and he can't cut or stop on a dime like he used. We're not motioning him as much as we used to. I think he's healthy I just think he's not ready to go 100% yet. He'll have a much better 2nd half of the year than 1st. More Dreessen until then?

    -Andre needs to get that ankle healthy. I almost want to see him take next week off and let Dickerson get a taste of the NFL. I think we'll be running it a ton next week anyways, Oakland is a great pass defense and awful run defense. Andre hesitated a bit on Schaub's pick to Jenkins and it was clearly because of the ankle. I don't want to see anymore of that this year because we need the Andre deep ball to win games.

    -Big plays went missing in this game. I don't know why but Walter didn't even have a catch til the last minutes of the fourth. We didn't have the big passing plays we usually get. I don't know why. Butler wasn't even the problem really, he had a few bad moments but it was more the o-line just not getting it done. Perhaps the right guard rotation doesn't help? Winston look confused a few times too, is it affecting him?
     
  2. Pantherstang84

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    I think they spent too much time giving press interviews this past week. Time to go back to work.
     
  3. dream_team

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    A little harsh on Slaton I think.

    As for a list of negatives, you really missed the biggest negative. The secondary, once again, got torched!
     
  4. m5kwatts

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    Any secondary will get torched when you have as much time as QBs have had against us. Face it, its the front 4 not the back 7. This team's pass rush is putrid right now.
     
  5. Pantherstang84

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    lol I'm a troll? The Texans got the national media love this past week. NFL Network, ESPN, Fox Sports, multiple players with interviews on Jim Rome.

    They have arrived. This team is finally legit.

    Until an 0-2 team comes to their house and makes them look like Oakland and I'm a troll? This game was not even competitive unless you count the TD in garbage time. The pass defense is non-existent. The QB has thrown more picks than touchdowns but yet a fan of this team since it was conceived points it out and is called a troll. Beautiful.
     
  6. MEGA SWATT

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    Everything the Texans did was negative today. Everything. This was the Texans of old. No competitiveness at all. At all.
     
  7. TexansSeminole

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    Eric Winston got owned all day in this game. Butler played better than him.

    Pass rush is a joke...way worse than even last year.

    Our secondary is pretty horrible right now, maybe they will put it together by the end of the season but right now they straight up suck.

    Why didn't we run Foster more? We seem to be getting away from the run again. I know we are down but regardless Foster has had a good season and was having a damn good game, picking up chunks of yardage on almost every carry.
     
  8. FirstTexansFan

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    I disagree with anything negative. Two plays were the difference. Eugene Wilson had an interception opportunity only to have it slip away from him. And the holding call on Eric Winston when we had pass interference on them. Game changers without a doubt.

    Are we excused for the rest of the game? No, but sometimes it's the way the ball bounces. We lost, move on, bring on the Raiders :)
     
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    Exactly. The media love was too much for the players this time. At the end of the day, the Texans are still 2-1 and do play an Oakland team they should beat next week. Not to mention the Giants aren't looking too good. The season isn't over here people.
     
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    Let's not forget the delay of game that wasn't called. The clock was at zero for at least two seconds. The false start that wasn't called (and instead an offside on Antonio Smith) was another call that really hurt.
     
  11. dream_team

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    I agree our pass rush was pathetic... but you can't give the secondary a free pass.
     
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    Winston needs to get back to football and stop messing around with that radio show of his.
     
  13. awtysst

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    thats 10 point right there.
     
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    You may not be a troll, but your suggestion that they lost this game because they gave some interviews and got a liitle more national press is stupid.
     
  15. Ranger Tom

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    I needed to hear that. I have a problem with getting too worked up about football and you've brought me back down to Earth. Repped.

    And anyway, our playoff dreams aren't dead yet. They're much more likely to survive a loss to the Cowboys than a loss to the Titans or Jaguars. Just gotta keep going.
     
  16. Pantherstang84

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    Agreed. Maybe I'm a little harsh, but if I was an HC I would ban my players from this kind of stuff through the season. But I'm not a head coach, I'm just a working stiff fan.
     
  17. Pantherstang84

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    They let it get to their collective heads. It happens every time they get a little media attention. Every time. Then come out flat against a team they should beat.
     
  18. gg no re

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    OK everyone, let's all take a deep breath, chill out, drink six or seventeen beers, pass out, wallow a bit in our own vomit, then get back here with a refreshed head.

    Let's not forget we projected ourselves to go 2-2 during this 4 game opener.
     
  19. Brisco_County

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    If you're blaming the media attention, you're a knucklehead. The team prepares the same way regardless.

    There was no pass rush. Period. There's the problem.
     
  20. Wolf6151

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    There's plenty of blame to go around in this game:
    * The secondary, as everyone knows, was terrible, it's difficult when there's no pass rush.
    * The D-line was terrible, Mario was just standing around much of the time, no effort.
    * The playcalling was terrible, no consistency or flow to the offense.
    * The O-line was inconsistent as well, decent/good in pass protection but terrible at controlling the LOS in the run game.
    * Matt Schaub got rattled and felt the pressure, many passes were to low or behind the receiver.
     

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