The "Choose Your Side On Mario" Thread

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by KJ3, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. KJ3

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    just chill, says i. i'll bet we see what we want to see by the end of the year.

    i can't believe no one has said anything about that guy from the cardinals who snapped his ankle over. ugh, that was nasty when they showed the trainer forcing it back over to a semi-natural position.
     
  2. HoustonFrog

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    I have no side. He is a Texans whom I want to do well and who looks to have the physical ability, but I'm keeping an eye on his motor and am a little nervous that the scouting reports were right on. So I'm a fence rider who will wait and see.
     
  3. bigbrewster2000

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    While it makes me nervous to see Mario not playing very welland the Dline in general, I am still not going to start screaming about the end of the world.......yet. Preseason is preseason and I will still not put too much on it period. Regardless of who we are talking about. I definantly want to see more, but I think that will eventually happen.
     
  4. Mr teX

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    I say relax, but for those who are fairly familiar with me, I'm always in relax mode. I saw some things i like, some things i dislike, hopefully it's more of the 1st one i mentioned.
     
  5. badboy

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    I think we should focus on two separate things on Mario Williams. What is his responsibility and what was McNairs.

    1. Mario is responsible for getting to the QB. He has not this preseason and did to certain degree (4 1/2) 47 tackles last season. He was not signed to stop the run or to be pushed out of play. If he can not get to the QB, he should be tying up more than one blocker. In my opinion, he gets a 'C' for last season and an incomplete so far this preseason. So far, he projects as an average DE.

    2. McNair's: Mr. McNair switched to Mario to be #1 pick of first round. No one else had him rated that high. What was Mario supposed to say, "Uh, no thanks." to all the money?

    My question is "What happens by game three of regular season if Mario is playing the same? What is plan B or is there a plan B?"
     
  6. HJam72

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    Plans A, B, C, and D are don't spend anymore first round picks on the D-line. There are a few other positions that matter.
     
  7. HuttoKarl

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    I play for the patience team.
     
  8. eriadoc

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    I'm not seeing enough of the things that make me optimistic, but I'm no Chicken Little on the matter, either. It takes time, and because of Carr, Bush, and VY, fans here aren't willing to give it time. That's unrealistic, and those that are too impatient are just setting themselves up for disappointment.

    Nonetheless, Mario has to show something. Last year, he flashed at times. The foot kept him from doing so as frequently as we would have liked, but he had some big plays vs. the Dolphins, Tacks, and Giants, just off the top of my head. If he can improve upon that this year, I won't worry. Preseason means nothing.
     


  9. real

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    side? lol...

    How can you be a Texan fan and NOT want Mario to succeed ?
     
  10. Mr teX

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    b/c you have other agendas. **coughs** RB & **coughs** VY.
     
  11. Brando

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    Ditto.

    Go Texans!



    By the way Saturdays game was exciting.

    :texflag:
     
  12. HuttoKarl

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    Shaub's pocket presence is very refreshing. His head's on a swivel all the time and he's not afraid to spread the ball out. Jones and Daniels and even Walter have looked pretty good and I have serious doubts that they'd look as good as they have with Carr behind center.

    When the defense starts mixing up blitzes and stunts rather than a straight-up 4 man rush, I think the defensive line will start looking better than they have.
     
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  13. Lucky

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    That is not correct. There was a report on Sporting News radio just after the draft that said as many as 7 teams had Mario atop their draft board. Bill Parcells and the Eagles GM Tom Heckert are on record that Mario was #1 on their boards.


    Isn't that what Reggie Bush said?
     
  14. TexansFight

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    What MW has to accomplish to be worthy of where he was taken and the guys we passed on is pretty high and unfair. If he was a 10-11 sacks a year guy he still would not been worth the pick. The scary thing is that he is not even a 10-11 sack a year guy but maybe a 7 sack a year guy at best.

    That type of production will earn him the label of being a bust and deservedly so. He is the worst #1 pick since Aundray Bruce.
     
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    Well, you have no idea what kind of production he will have in the future, and you are jumping the gun by saying hew is the worst #1 pick since A. Bruce. How do you know if he is or is not a 10-11 sack sack guy? We don't know any of that stuff yet. Sure we can all guess by what little we have seen this PRESEASON but again stop jumping the gun here. At least(very least) reserve this kind of talk til the regular season.

    And I would like an explanation from you that can tell me why you know exactly the kind of sack production Mario will have? As far as I am concerned if you can't do that your statement is silly. For the record I think you statement is already silly.
     
  16. nunusguy

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    The dynamic duo, Marcus Stroud & John Henderson who play on the inside for the Jags 4-3 and are both in the 6-6 to 6-7 range, are considered among the best if not the best inside combo in the league and obviously aren't too tall to be effective DTs.
    So Mario's height shouldn't necessarily eliminate him from being considered at that position if he's just not going to be a fit playing on the edge at DE in the Texans 4-3 ? Afterall its looking more and more like his long-suit is rushing defense and not rushing the passer ?
     
  17. Vinny

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    I'm on the side of 'I wish he would play well'.

    I've seen a lot of people say wait a year to say start commenting about a players play...wait for 3 years, wait, wait, wait....well, some of you guys may need to wait and let the world form an opinion before you form yours, but the NFL season is a very short sports season and there are only a few games...each game shows me something and I'll judge players as I see them play. Last year Mario came out of the gate vs the Eagles and had a lackluster perfomance.....everyone said, wait! It's too early! Well, it isn't too early to see if he wins any individual battles as the first overall pick in a historic draft loaded with difference makers.

    This year is starting out exactly like last year for Mario...So far I see no improvement, no new rush moves....but I did hear him say he wants to break the sack record. I mean, come on....you can't even whip the mediocre journeyman Mike Gandy. I'd like to see him at least talk realistically....it wouldn't sound so out of touch with reality.
     
  18. Second Honeymoon

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    *cheers for Vinny's voice of reason*
     
  19. dskillz

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    I am in the camp of wait and see. Seemingly all of the d-line is struggling at breaking blocks and getting pressure. But of course with Mario being the #1 pick, we expect alot more from him. Seeing him getting blocked by one guy and him not getting near the QB is frustrating. Not because I hate Mario, but because he seems like a good guy and I want to see him doing well. Also, it seems that Mario doing well brings all kinds of the wrong attention to the team. I am giving him until the end of next season. If we don't see something by year 3, then I think we know we just got 'another guy' and not a defensive force.

    With all that said, it looked like Mario was getting held in the Cardinals game whenever he did get some penetration.
     
  20. badboy

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    After the draft, we heard that other treams had Mario rated high on their boards but I recall no one on tv, radio or news print focusing on Mario in the top 3-4 picks.
     

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