The 2012 "Rate My Draft" Thread

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  1. Mr. White

    Mr. White H-Town Beatdown

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    I drew #3 in a 10-team, 16 round snake draft. I usually start with 2 RB's, but I went BPA instead this time for the first 3 rounds.

    1. Ray Rice
    2. Cam Newton
    3. Rob Gronkowski
    4. Trent Richardson
    5. Steve Smith (CAR)
    6. Demariyus Thomas
    7. BenJarvus Green-Ellis
    8. Philip Rivers
    9. Tony Gonzalez
    10. Michael Crabtree
    11. Sebastian Janikowski
    12. Steelers DST
    13. Darius Heyward-Bey
    14. Falcons DST
    15. Greg Little
    16. Bernard Pierce

    It seems like there wasn't a whole lot to choose from, but I say that every year.

    I also used a new FF service this time around. Their waiver wire advice was great last year, but I didn't get to use them for the draft.
     
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  2. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

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    Richardson and Green-Ellis both seem fairly high and why draft 2 DST's much less 1? I'm not saying there is only one way to draft but typically there are anywhere from 15 to 22 DST units available after a draft and why not use those picks on skill players who might have a good preseason? Riding match ups (say whoever was playing the Colts in a given week last year) will still get you a ton of points.
     
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    Blake MMQB

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    12 Team standard. Picked #6.

    Went McCoy 1, Cam 2, Green 3, Jones 4, Finley 5, Bradshaw 6, Texans D 7, Blackmon 8, DWilliams 9, Akers 10, Wilson 11, RWilliams 12, Wright 13, Giants D 14, Moss 15, Flynn 16, Lewis 17.

    QB Cam Newton, Car QB
    RB LeSean McCoy, Phi RB
    RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG RB P
    WR A.J. Green, Cin WR
    WR Julio Jones, Atl WR
    WR Justin Blackmon, Jac WR
    TE Jermichael Finley, GB TE P
    D/ST Texans D/ST D/ST
    K David Akers, SF K

    Bench DeAngelo Williams, Car RB
    Bench David Wilson, NYG RB
    Bench Ryan Williams, Ari RB P
    Bench Kendall Wright, Ten WR
    Bench Giants D/ST D/ST
    Bench Santana Moss, Wsh WR
    Bench Matt Flynn, Sea QB
    Bench Dion Lewis, Phi RB
     
  4. Ryan

    Ryan THIS YEAR

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    12 team league. Picked 5th. PPR.

    Starting lineup:
    QB Aaron Rodgers(1st round pick)
    WR Larry Fitzgerald(2nd round pick)
    WR Jeremy Maclin(5th round pick)
    RB Trent Richardson(3rd round pick)
    RB Darren Sproles(4th round pick)
    TE Tony Gonzalez(10th round pick)
    W/R Antonio Brown(6th round pick)
    K Robbie Gould(15th round)
    D/ST Seattle(11th round)

    Bench:
    Peyton Hillis
    David Wilson
    Reggie Wayne
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    James Starks
    Mario Manningham
     
  5. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

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    Not a big fan of Bradshaw as an RB, but Giants RB's are hard to pin down from year to year anyway. I'm also not a big fan of rookie WR's (Usually only 1 or 2 end up being good their rookie year). Boom or bust team.

    How was Richardson at catching the ball out of the backfield at 'bama? I know hillis isn't going to get a lot of passes out of the backfield but in a PPR league RB's that catch the ball a lot are pretty valuable as well. I think Wayne is going to end up with more catches than Maclin but other than that seems decent all around.

    I still hate seeing people draft DST's with anything other than the last pick if at all. Those spots could be late round flyers on guys who could contribute more and there's almost certainly a defense or 5 that didn't get picked this year that are going to be stellar. It always happens like that.
     
  6. Ryan

    Ryan THIS YEAR

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    Richardson can do it all. If he's healthy I bet he can touch the ball well over 300 times this year including 40-50 times catching.

    Drafting a D/ST at that spot is really not much of a risk at all. I let people get all the big name defenses like the Texans and the Niners early and just grabbed a solid defense late(I was the second to last person to pick a defense). I don't have any ties to be forced to keep Seattle if they're doing poorly and i usually pick up 4 or 5 different defenses during the year during bye weeks and bad matchups.
     
  7. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

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    I just waiver wire defenses and go by match-ups unless I grab a defense that gets hot. Last year my "Pick up defenses playing against the Colts" strategy worked pretty damn well about 12 of the 16 weeks of the football season. That 11th rounder in my league could've been one of Robert Meachem, Justin Blackmon, Ben Roethlisberger, Santonio Holmes, all kinds of guys that could possibly be a nice sleeper.

    There will still be defenses and special teams units that will probably put up 140 - 160 points this year that did not get drafted.
     
  8. Ryan

    Ryan THIS YEAR

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    None of those guys were available at that point. Some of the sleeper QBs i wanted were gone although i still got Fitz in the 13th i believe. Seemed like the best option. A good defense won't win you many games in fantasy, but a bad one can certainly lose it for you. Playing matchups is no guarantee. I played the Vikings D last year against the Broncos and Tebow last year and got a nice -3 and a loss.
     


  9. b0ng

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    Why would you knowingly play the Vikings defense last year? Even without hindsight that's just a bad idea all around for last year. The idea behind match-ups is that you want to play a team that is going up against a terrible offensive team. The Broncos may have qualified for that at some points last year but the Colts/Browns/Jaguars/Bucs were all consistently terrible on offense and pumped up otherwise mediocre defenses to 20 point games for them.

    If you could, I'd love to see what got taken in the 11th and 12th rounds of your draft. I'm absolutely sure there's a player on those lists that will have a shot at getting you a decent amount of points that could even be considered trade bait for people who are desperate. Picking a DST in a draft is for suckers.
     
  10. Ryan

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    1.

    Green Bay(GB - DEF)



    2.

    Alex Smith(SF - QB)



    3.

    Denarius Moore(Oak - WR)



    4.

    Matt Flynn(Sea - QB)



    5.

    Andy Dalton(Cin - QB)



    6.

    Nate Burleson(Det - WR)



    7.

    Seattle(Sea - DEF)



    8.

    Matt Cassel(KC - QB)


    9.

    Josh Freeman(TB - QB)


    10.

    Kansas City(KC - DEF)



    11.

    Darrius Heyward-Bey(Oak - WR)



    12.

    Coby Fleener(Ind - TE)


    Only person i would have considered taking is Heyward-Bey but i felt good about my receivers. There is a lot of chopped liver in those picks. I wanted Dalton but he didn't fall to me.
     
  11. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    I like Coby Fleener, I think he could be a sleeper TE this year.
     
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    I would've taken a flyer on DHB in that draft, over a DST possibly Freeman as well if I felt like taking a chance. Either way the amount of DST units that are usually left over in FA and how little separation there is between their outputs means you can get away with slamming it if you aren't able to snag a hot one off the wire.
     
  13. gtexan02

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    I majorly died in my draft. Heres my team (auction league is just so freaking hard)

    QB: Eli Manning
    RB1: Adrian Peterson
    RB2: Trent Richardson
    WR/RB: Reggie Bush
    WR1: Steve Johnson
    WR2: Vincent Jackson
    TE: Tony Gonzalez
    DST: Texans
    Kicker: Garrett Hartley

    Bench1: Toby Gerhart (handcuff for AP)
    Bench2: Reggie Wayne
     
  14. Mr. White

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    This hasn't been my experience at all. In a 16 round draft, picks 9-16 are pretty much a crapshoot IMO. The way to build a roster that'll make it to the playoffs is to minimize risk.

    I think there's a lot less risk involved in taking a proven DST. Otherwise you're stuck a bum WR3 or RB3 and pray that they get the ball. Since that hardly ever happens, then you have to pray even harder that the guy in front of them goes out for the season.

    Not to mention I've yet to participate in a league where every owner doesn't draft for DST.
     
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    Which team do you think had the best draft?

    Team 1
    QB Matthew Stafford
    RB Matt Forte
    RB Darren McFadden
    RB/WR Stevan Ridley
    WR Brandon Marshall
    WR Mike Wallace
    TE Fred Davis
    D/ST Packers D/ST
    K Jason Hanson
    BE Philip Rivers
    BE Isaac Redman

    Team 2
    QB Michael Vick
    RB Ahmad Bradshaw
    RB BenJarvus Green Ellis
    RB/WR Larry Fitzgerald
    WR Julio Jones
    WR Antonio Brown
    TE Antonio Gates
    D/ST Eagles D/ST
    K Mason Crosby
    BE Doug Martin
    BE Demaryius Thomas

    Team 3
    QB Tony Romo
    RB Marshawn Lynch
    RB DeMarco Murray
    RB/WR Brandon Lloyd
    WR Greg Jennings
    WR Dez Bryant
    TE Vernon Davis
    D/ST 49ers D/ST
    K Stephen Gostkowski
    BE Ben Roethlisberger
    BE Ben Tate

    Team 4
    QB Matt Ryan
    RB Donald Brown
    RB Chris Johnson
    RB/WR Fred Jackson
    WR Denarius Moore
    WR Marques Colston
    TE Aaron Hernandez
    D/ST Seahawks D/ST
    K Dan Bailey
    BE Jonathan Stewart
    BE Torrey Smith

    Team 5
    QB Tom Brady
    RB Steven Jackson
    RB Michael Turner
    RB/WR DeSean Jackson
    WR Steve Smith
    WR Dwayne Bowe
    TE Jason Witten
    D/ST Jets D/ST
    K David Akers
    BE Eric Decker
    BE Jermichael Finley

    Team 6
    QB Aaron Rodgers
    RB Ray Rice
    RB Mark Ingram
    RB/WR Malcom Floyd
    WR Wes Welker
    WR Jeremy Maclin
    TE Jared Cook
    D/ST Falcons D/ST
    K Alex Henery
    BE Peyton Manning
    BE Matt Schaub

    Team 7
    QB Cam Newton
    RB Arian Foster
    RB Peyton Hillis
    RB/WR Beanie Wells
    WR A.J. Green
    WR Calvin Johnson
    TE Brandon Pettigrew
    D/ST Cowboys D/ST
    K Robbie Gould
    BE Lance Moore
    BE LeGarrette Blount

    Team 8:
    QB Eli Manning
    BE Reggie Bush
    RB Adrian Peterson
    RB/WR Trent Richardson
    WR Vincent Jackson
    WR Steve Johnson
    TE Tony Gonzalez
    D/ST Texans D/ST
    K Garrett Hartley
    RB Toby Gerhart
    BE Reggie Wayne

    Team 9:
    QB Andrew Luck
    RB Darren Sproles
    RB Willis McGahee
    RB/WR Percy Harvin
    WR Victor Cruz
    WR Andre Johnson
    TE Jimmy Graham
    D/ST Steelers D/ST
    K Matt Prater
    BE Roy Helu
    BE C.J. Spiller

    Team 10:
    QB Robert Griffin III
    RB Jamaal Charles
    RB Ryan Mathews
    RB/WR Frank Gore
    WR Jordy Nelson
    WR Hakeem Nicks
    TE Rob Gronkowski
    D/ST Ravens D/ST
    K Sebastian Janikowski
    BE Miles Austin
    BE Michael Bush

    Team 11:
    QB Tim Tebow
    RB Maurice Jones-Drew
    RB Jahvid Best
    RB/WR Santonio Holmes
    WR Roddy White
    WR Pierre Garcon
    TE Jacob Tamme
    D/ST Lions D/ST
    K Rob Bironas
    BE Anquan Boldin
    BE James Starks

    Team 12:
    QB Drew Brees
    RB LeSean McCoy
    RB Cedric Benson
    RB/WR DeAngelo Williams
    WR Randy Moss
    WR Andre Caldwell
    TE Greg Olsen
    D/ST Bears D/ST
    K Neil Rackers
    BE Shonn Greene
    BE Robert Meachem
     
  16. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    I would say Team 7 or 6:

    QB Cam Newton
    RB Arian Foster
    RB Peyton Hillis
    RB/WR Beanie Wells
    WR A.J. Green
    WR Calvin Johnson
    TE Brandon Pettigrew
    D/ST Cowboys D/ST
    K Robbie Gould
    BE Lance Moore
    BE LeGarrette Blount

    Team 6
    QB Aaron Rodgers
    RB Ray Rice
    RB Mark Ingram
    RB/WR Malcom Floyd
    WR Wes Welker
    WR Jeremy Maclin
    TE Jared Cook
    D/ST Falcons D/ST
    K Alex Henery
    BE Peyton Manning
    BE Matt Schaub

    Why are there only two bench spots?
     
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    I don't really know. I hate it, in reality. The team with Aaron Rodgers got screwed because autodraft chose 2 backup QBs for him. He'll now have to trade or drop them, and both of those guys are valuable
     
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    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    Well, that does tell me that your league has a very deep waiver wire, and that bye weeks could kill a team. If I was in your league, I would strategize to get my best players all on the same bye week and just take the loss. Then start everyone the other 15 weeks and blow everyone away. Use those two bench spots sparingly, but try to pick up good players when they have a big game.

    Edit:
    So Week 7 is the week that 6 teams are on bye this year. They are: Atlanta, Denver, Kansas City, Miami, Philadelphia, San Diego

    In an auction league, I would plan out this sort of roster based on those team's fantasy values. A lineup could be something like this:

    QB: Peyton, Matt Ryan or Rivers
    RB: McCoy (Must have), Turner, Jamaal Charles, Peyton Hillis, Reggie Bush (if PPR), McGahee
    WR: Julio Jones (must have), Roddy White, Dwayne Bowe, Maclin, Djax, Michael Floyd, Davone Bess, some Denver WR nobody cares about
    TE: Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez or Celek
    K: Take your pick, but I would go with Prater out of this bunch.
    DST: Take your pick, I would go with KC or Philly

    Starting a full team built around week 7 would annihilate everyone else who will be resting a starter each week. I used this strategy for a draft last year, and it worked out really well for me. Went 11-3 in the regular season and won the playoffs by a hefty margin too.
     
  19. majestrate

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    Try a 14-team, 16-man roster (10 starting, 6 bench) where bonuses will decimate your opponent (plays >20 yds, plays >40, TDs 50-69yds, TDs >70yds, passing >300, passing >400, passing >450, passing >500, rushing >100, rushing >150, rushing >200, rushing >250, receiving >100, receiving >150, receiving >200, receiving >250)

    QB
    Flex (QB/RB/WR/TE)
    RB
    RB
    WR
    WR
    WR
    TE
    K
    DST
    Bench
    Bench
    Bench
    Bench
    Bench
    Bench
    IR (can only be used is someone is ruled "Out" of a game)

    This is a rough league where after 4 rounds, you're really looking at low-end #2s and high-end #3s, or fliers

    If anyone's interested in how this draft played out, I'll post it once we're done (takes about a week, we don't do auto-draft because we usually have 2 or 3 people overseas at any given time). I can also give the bonus details, if there's interest in how this particular league is setup
     
  20. Kaiser Toro

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    14 team draft, 14 rounds. PPR, keeper league, can keep up to 4. QB, RB, WR, TE, 2 FLEX, D/ST, K.

    Drafted 13th, snake draft.

    1. Roddy White
    2. Arian Foster (keeper)
    3. Steve Smith
    4. Eli Manning
    5. Darius Heyward-Bey
    6. Rashard Mendenhall
    7. Peyton Hillis (keeper)
    8. Jimmy Graham (keeper)
    9. Aaron Hernandez (keeper)
    10. David Akers
    11. Patriots
    12. David Wilson
    13. Vincent Brown
    14. Ryan Tannehill
     
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