Texans random thought of the day

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  1. Shishkabob

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    snippet from Greg Cossel's interview today on 610, I'd wager this guy has watched more film than this whole board combined and has probably forgotten more about the game than many of us will ever learn

    On offensive design/playcalling
    We aren’t there when they’re putting together their game plan. So what are people reacting to? People react to results of the game. I don’t know how people felt in Houston when they won nine in a row. It’s hard to win nine in a row in the NFL, it’s really hard to do that. They did that, and you could argue they did that with an offensive roster that had significant holes. Okay so, was Bill O’Brien cheered on at that point? I’m not in Houston, but my guess is he wasn’t just as a national guy looking at the league. I don’t think Bill O’Brien was probably cheered on as wow look what he’s doing with less than great talent. He should be cheered for that. I mean this is not an offense that is a multi-dimensional complete offense. There’s too many missing pieces. And yet they won 9 in a row with a young quarterback that’s still learning – a lot of talent, a lot of smarts but still learning – and with a great receiver. but not much else… with a solid running back… and an O-line that some might say could have been the worst in the league.

    So I guess I’m missing the idea that somehow Bill O’Brien is doing a poor job.

    I love Deshaun. I know Deshaun. I think he’s a phenomenal kid. He’s a good player with a chance to be a really good player. Whether he gets there this year or sometime after, no one knows that. But after his rookie year the media presented him as the chosen one. There was a national perception that this guy is now a top-five, great great quarterback. So I think when the offense didn’t quite function like that all of the time, there was some sense that it must be the coaching. Because Deshaun Watson, he’s Michael Jordan. He’s the chosen one. And I think that was so unrealistic and unfair to Deshaun… who is a hard worker, everything about Deshaun is positive. But it was unrealistic to expect him to be that, as a second-year quarterback with the talent that was surrounding him.
     
  2. steelbtexan

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    You're not going to win this battle, the hate is too strong around these parts. Before the season I asked these same posters what they would consider a successsful season and 11-5, 12-4 seemed to be good enough for the mob. They finished 11-5 and that still wasn't good enough for the mob.

    Reasonable people who looked at the talent on the team and with Watson coming off of an ACL thought 9-7, 10-6 was reasonable. At 11-5 I thought the Texans overachieved there talent level.



    Take comfort that good times are ahead.
     
  3. steelbtexan

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    Thanks for posting this.

    I've been going back and forth with the mob trying to say exactly this since last season began. The injury to Fuller only made things worse.
     
  4. Shishkabob

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    I mean with just the 3 Watson, Hopkins, and Fuller our offense averages 31 points a game which is on par with the other top offenses, despite having a far worse line and fewer weapons than say the Rams and Chiefs
     
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    :bravo::goodpost:
     
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    Yeah, but all 11-5s aren't the same and this one was more like a 5-11. :kitten:
     
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    Texans Kareem Jackson Looking Forward to See Where He Ends Up Playing in 2019
    byPatrick D. Starr56 mins

    Houston Texans Kareem Jackson looking forward to the free agency process and where he will end up playing.

    With the NFL free agency window slowly closing in, Houston Texans defensive back Kareem Jackson will be a well know name around league circles. With the Texans working on a plan to keep him in a Texans uniform long-term, there will be teams around the NFL preparing to pry him away from his home in Houston.

    Making the rounds at Radio Row in Atlanta, Jackson was on the Simms and Lefkoe Podcast discussing his upcoming situation heading into 2019. The longest tenured Texans player in the locker room, Jackson is set to his free agency as an unrestricted free agent. This will be the second opportunity for Jackson to test the free agent market, in 2015, Jackson landed a 4-year deal worth $34 million to stay with the Texans despite a strong push and offer from the New Orleans Saints.

    “I actually didn’t get to free agency, but this will be the second time around,” Jackson explained of free agency. “I kinda know how it goes.”

    The Texans moved Jackson to safety to start the season but due to injuries, they had to move him back to cornerback to help the depleted position group. For free agency, Jackson is open to any of the positions he played for the Texans, but feels that safety is his best bet moving forward entering his 10th season in the NFL.

    “It depends on whatever team decides to bring me in," Jackson said of potential fits in free agency. "I am opened to anything, for me, I will play will safety, I will be play corner, I will play the slot, whatever it is. I think at this point in my career, I will be 31 once the season starts, so I think playing safety will be ideal.”

    THE REST OF THE STORY
     
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  8. mws

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    Will Fuller played in 7 games this year. In those 7 games the Texans averaged 25.285 points per game. In the 9 games they played without Fuller they averaged 25 points even.
     
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    I figured with as much time he spent coaching at the college level he'd have a big network of guys he's coached with that have gone on to OC positions at the college level, or even HC who were ready to step up to the NFL.


    I mean other than Godsey.
     
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    Has OB ever coached defense? I thought he's only ever coached offense. Twenty some years before New England at the college level.


    Or did you just read the first part of Infantrycak's post?
     
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  11. Shishkabob

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    he coached linebackers for a year or 2 in the beginning of his career at the college level
     
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    I can't speak for everyone, but that's not where my frustration comes from. We saw the beginnings of an offense designed for Watson should look like last season & in a few spots of a few games this year. Like the end of the Jags game. We were here talking about how it didn't make sense to "open it up" at that juncture of the season unless we were going to build on it going into the the playoffs.

    But nope. We got stand in the pocket, make the right reads or else playbook.
     
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    Thunder exactly. The biggest issue I see with Obrien, is his freaking pride. I understand he wants to set his own offensive legacy. But that stink is not working (5 years in). When he imo started running things that actually fits his QB. The offense flowed and moved with ease.

    Personally I thought he was holding back and was going to go all out in the playoffs. But what did we see, yes another one of O'brien's team start the game off lethargic and disinterested.
     
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    I can't remember but I'm trying to remember if there was this much support for O'Brien after he went 4-12? This 11-5 season was an aberration as to how the team really looked. Domination on either side of the ball only came in spurts all season long.

    Worse yet, how much more film would we need to watch, to guess less than 80% of OB's play-calling during games? Sometimes, on this very board during game discussions, many sounded like Romo was participating on this board. If we can be that accurate, how do most feel a DC would be?

    OB must focus on being the HC this season and release the other 2 hats to a tried and true OC and QB Coach. He "must" stick to wearing the HC hat and let the new OC run the game just like RC does. Things could get better in a hurry.
     
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    Agree.
    Most of the angst many feel now is how easily we went down in the WC game and the fact it gets harder with our schedule next season but kicking OB to the kerb now won't change that nor does it guarantee a good outcome next season.
    I too am concerned with our schedule next season, but, if our receiving corp can retain just one more weapon on offense than last season and our QB and oline play improves (along with the defense) then we will be competitive.
    What we do have to accomplish is to win both games against Jags or Titans, one off the other and find a way to take a game off the Colts and we should be in the mix for the division.
    It will be very difficult to get a WC with our schedule but I feel we can still be competitive with Watson having the benefit of a full season under his belt.
    I look forward to seeing what improvements FO makes over the offseason.
     
  16. JB

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    Must? Or what?, ya gonna fire him yourself?
     
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    Didn't enter the "focus on". Mind thought it, fingers didn't enter it.
     
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    I think maybe JB's "old curmudgeon" persona took over. :)

    :coffee:
     
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    focus on?
     
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    yeah, just got off work... not drumk yet
     

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