Texans Position Improvement

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  1. Wolf12339

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    Now that Free Agency and the Draft are over. Lets look and see where we improved and where we got worse from 2018-2019. I'm only taking into account Player additions and subtractions, no year by year improvement from players.

    QB-Improved
    RB-Stayed the Same
    WR-Stayed the Same
    OL- Improved with 3 new additions
    TE-Improved

    DL-Stayed the Same, possible slight improvement/Regression
    LB-Stayed the Same
    Safety-Regressed
    CB-Improved
     
  2. powda

    powda Daycare at Demmin '45

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    Did safety regress?

    Reed will be better. Gipson is better on te's which regularly kill us and cheaper.

    Wr will be better if they stay healthy.

    Lb's are fairly young and should naturally get better.

    Special teams should get better.

    Will the schedule show that? Idk.
     
  3. Wolf12339

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    I'm only counting additions and subtractions. Not player improvement
     
  4. TheRealJoker

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    Hard to make a thread about position improvement if we're not factoring player improvement going from rookie to year 2 development which is usually when NFL players make their biggest jump.
     
  5. Wolf12339

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    I did it because every fan base thinks ever position just gets better. If we did that then you could say that every position on the Texans is better then last year with another year of experience.
     
  6. TheKDog

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    Rookies are almost always TBD, especially when none of them are considered day 1 starters or even definite future starters. This entire class needs development time.

    Also, Clowney very well may hold out all year so that would be a huge downgrade.
     
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    I don't think the Chiefs are thinking their WR room is better than last year right at this moment with the Tyreek Hill situation looming.

    Doubt the Steelers think their WRs are better either.

    I agree safety is weaker on Texans than last season and obviously if Clowney decides to holdout...
     
  8. Wolf12339

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    Yes because its taking into consideration a addition or a subtraction like I said..

    Texans fans would say.
    QB-Improved
    RB-Improved with Foreman back
    WR-Improved with coutee for whole season
    TE-Improved cause of young players
    OL-Improved because of additions and young player growth

    DL-Improved
    LB-Improved because of young player growth
    Safety-Improved because Reid improves so much
    CB-Improved

    So fans think just about every area of the team every year will be better. But in reality the Texans really upgraded just a few position. OL, CB, TE
     
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    UDFA Chris Johnson will be better than Andre Hal as a backup and cheaper.
     
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    Oline has to be better CB is still a concern and I expect it to be a position of need next year as well. We have 3 CB's on the roster on 1yr or the last year of their contracts we really need to find 3-4 CB's this weekend and next years draft to fix it.
     


  11. Jhuff000

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    OL improved. Howard is an upgrade, so is Scharping. Both look like guards though. Howard has the size and feet to be a right tackle. Like the TE and CB too. Hoping we get away from that soft zone mess
     
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    Fortunately all 3 are starters and Chris Johnson should get looks TC at corner and although I prefer him at safety, Lonnie Johnson was drafted. Still possible Clowney could bring a vet.
     
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    Way too early to think about next year, but I wouldn't be surprised if Edge Rusher or DB was our top pick/need next year. Maybe interior OL. Roby will almost certainly draw TY Hilton this year, and if he can lock him down, I see him getting a nice contract to return here
     
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    We’ll know more after Pre Season Game 3.....till then, everything’s up in the air.
     
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    We have to wait at least 5 games into the regular season to make a definitive case on these positions. Right now all we're doing is playing the guessing game. Yes of course we the fans have a strong habit of throwing out there this got better and that got better. Using me as an example, I quickly came to the conclusion that our secondary would be much improved with the addition of Badger ( took out the honey because I remember catching hell for using that part of his name) bwhahaha and Colvin. Oh how I was completely wrong. Therefore, I'm going to stick to the golden rule of waiting until at least 5 games are played to gauge these additions.
     
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    Are we reading the same MB? Looking around this place you'd think the only decent players we have are Watson, Hopkins and Watt and even they are questionable at times.
     
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    IMO, that's not a valid assumption. We pretty much know Alfred Blue, Kendall Lamm, Ryan Griffin, JJo, Watt, Clowney, Kareem Jackson, Honey Badger, et al, may have good years but have likely topped out. They may get smarter and cagier, but that won't always make up for the ravages of age, wear, and tear. That's why a lot of those guys aren't here any longer.
     
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    1. OL room: big jump up in raw talent and potential, but who's the Center? That concerns me. Time to churn the bottom of the OL roster.
    2. DB room: better, but by how much is TBD. Big learning curve for the new blood. Upgrades are still needed. Can RAC maximize what's there?
    3. TE room: better, especially if Ryan Griffin is no longer there. The young guys will have to grow up fast.
    4. FB: definitely better than last year, seeing that we didn't have one. He'd better be a terrific lead blocker and QB protector, plus decent outlet receiver. He could be an unexpected boon and difference maker to the offense for a few plays per game.
    5. RB: TBD. Addition by subtraction with Alfred Blue gone, but what's still there is mighty thin. Hopefully there will be new blood that can block and average 3.5+ ypc.
    6. WR room: TBD, really depends on health, learning curve, and play design.
    7. QB: Better coaching couples with experience to keep Watson on the upswing. The backup QB hopefully won't be needed, but if he is, the impact is TBD. I would love be to see RG3 in that spot.
    8. DL: TBD. Need more push up the middle and better scheming for Mercilus. Gonna miss Covington, so it's time for the younger guys to shine as rotational players.
    9. LB: Unchanged. Could stand a big upgrade in speed. Maybe next year.
    10. Special teams: TBD
     
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    If Roby does well then this will be another HB situation.
     
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    Yeah I’m stupid to think we’ll pay him. We let good talent walk because of “the market” and then we’ll go and throw stupid money at a bunch of guys that suck. Like, letting Bouye walk and bringing in Colvin. Out with Quin, in with Ed Reed. Letting brooks walk and “replacing” him with Jeff Allen/Zach Fulton/senio kelemente..trading brown and replacing with julien Davenport...I guess we’ll see if Gipson/tytus/Roby are good.

    Damn, I’m pissed again.
     
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    Yeah I’m stupid to think we’ll pay him. We let good talent walk because of “the market” and then we’ll go and throw stupid money at a bunch of guys that suck. Like, letting Bouye walk and bringing in Colvin. Out with Quin, in with Ed Reed. Letting brooks walk and “replacing” him with Jeff Allen/Zach Fulton/senio kelemente..trading brown and replacing with julien Davenport...I guess we’ll see if Gipson/tytus/Roby are good.

    Damn, I’m pissed again.
     
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