Texans - Payne moving back to tackle

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  1. Texans34Life

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    Megan Manfull, writing for the Sporting News, reports Houston Texans DL Seth Payne is working to make the transition back to defensive tackle. He played in a 4-3 system for four years in college and for his first five years in the NFL. He has become used to the 3-4 schemes and playing nose tackle over the past few years though. Payne is splitting time with DT Robaire Smith at one of the tackle positions.
     
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    wasnt he always a DT
     
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    wow, megan is working overtime for that 4 year old scoop.
     
  4. nunusguy

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    Meg needs to get a crash course in football 101, then maybe something at
    the intermediate level in NFL D & O schemes.
    Technically, she's a good journalist (light years ahead of the grammatically
    challenged "Hollywood" McClain), so the foundation is there to write some good stuff that would be informative and entertaining.
     
  5. YoungTexanFan

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    So...if Payne are Robaire are SPLITTING time at ONE of the DT positions, who is manning the other one?
     
  6. aj.

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    Weaver
     
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    and I believe Malone behind Weaver, and TJ currently on third string.
     
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    there is a difference between 3/4 and 4/3 tackles. im sure thats what she meant.
     


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    man, you guys have some crack sports reporters down there.
     
  10. nunusguy

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    I dunno.....do they play football up there ?
    I've understood that area is pretty much a hotbed for Badminton and Bridge.
     
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    Playing nose tackle is different than playing DT in a 4-3.

    YOu have different roles and responsibilities.

    In the 3-4 you are a clogger and block absorber.

    In the 4-3 you are a penetrator.

    Means you have to have a different skill set and mentaility.
     
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    this coming from the guy who lives in a state where the HS footballers are such pansies they had to instill a 50 pt mercy rule
     
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    Keep in mind that not all 3-4's (or 4-3's for that matter) are alike. Even though 3-4 teams use two-gap scheme more often, no defense runs a one or two gap scheme exclusively. Often in the 3-4, the weakside tackle will play one gap while the nose and the strong side tackle will play two gap. The Steelers do a lot of one gap stuff with their front 3. The Texans under Fangio didn't do much of it at all.
     
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    Dammit this is funny. Hit my bone like a two stage cluster bomb!

    First just because the rule is funny ( like a mercy flush ), second because of the knowledge of the knowledge that someone knows the state rules of football!

    That's awesome in itself. ( more so because it Connecticut... I don't even know where that is? It's like one of those Dark Matter states... cartographers and pilgrims say it is there, but you never see it )
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    And ditto to 4-3, 3-4 comparisons.

    Look at the Patriots 3-4/4-3 that played 1-4, 1-5, 2-4, 2-3, 2-5 all in the same games for the past few seasons.

    then I think Carolina keeps their 4-3 steady through out most of the game ( not that I watched a whole hell of a lot of their games )
     

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