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  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    Texans looking for backup receivers to catch on
    John McClain , Houston Chronicle May 20, 2019

    The first of the Texans' 10 organized team activities is Monday, and one of their goals is to find depth at wide receiver.

    The Texans are set with their first three receivers — DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller on the outside and Keke Coutee in the slot.

    Fuller is recovering from surgery in November to repair a torn ACL but will be ready for the start of the regular season against New Orleans. Coutee missed more than half of his rookie season because of a hamstring injury. The Texans are happy with his progress during the offseason program.

    To add to the competition at receiver, expect general manager Brian Gaine to check out veteran free agents who don't have jobs and the waiver wire to continue to look for depth.

    As it stands now, the Texans have four primary candidates looking to earn backup roles. The most prominent is slot receiver DeAndre Carter, who was claimed on waivers during the 2018 season and should return as Coutee's backup. Carter had 20 catches for 195 yards and performed well as the kickoff and punt returner.

    Hopkins, Fuller, Coutee and Carter give the offense four receivers. The three leading candidates for the fifth job are second-year veterans Vyncint Smith and Jester Weah and undrafted rookie free agent Johnnie Dixon.


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    So question for you CnD, given the history and now the recovery what are the odds that Fuller and Coutee actually can make it through the season and are they rushing the recovery? I'll admit put a band aid on it and take Advil is about as far as my medical knowledge goes.
     
  3. CloakNNNdagger

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    I've written extensively re. Fuller's and Coutee's injuries in the Injury Thread. But to give a relatively quick answer:
    Even if I were a gambler, I could not give specific odds for either making it through the whole season. However, relying alone on them to do so would not be the best strategy.

    Fuller has had recurrent hamstring and knee problems since his rookie year.............studies has demonstrated that hamstring injuries increase the risk of ACL injuries, and ACL injuries increase the risk of hamstring injuries. So also consider Fuller a high risk for lower extremity injuries:

    Oct 25, 2018 ACL Tear Grade 3 Fuller tore his right ACL

    Aug 15, 2018 Hamstring Strain Grade 2 Fuller "tweaked" a hamstring in an August practice. He sat out the whole preseason (coming off January knee surgery) and missed the regular-season opener.

    Dec 31, 2017 Knee Strain Grade 1 ..................He had "minor" surgery shortly thereafter.

    Nov 12, 2017 Chest Rib Fracture left Week 10 and missed the next 3 games with cracked ribs.

    Aug 2, 2017 Clavicle Fracture missed the entire preseason and 1st 3 games of the regular season.

    Oct 30, 2016 Knee Strain Grade 1 left Week 8 with an unspecified left knee injury that cost him the game after the Week 9 bye.

    Oct 11, 2016 NFL Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 missed 1 game because of a setback with his hamstring injury.

    Sep 7, 2016 Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 popped up on the injury report leading up to Week 1 but played through his hamstring issue.


    Coutee, with his multiple significant hamstring tears last season, will be considered a high risk for recurrent hamstring problems this season...........moreso, if the staff has missed an underlying functional trigger, be it anatomical or training related. As I wrote above re. Fuller, his history of hamstrings will place him at increased risk this season for other lower extremity injuries as well.
     
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    Texans Need Deshaun Watson to Evolve + What Else to Watch for Heading into OTAs
    byPatrick D. Starr

    Deshaun Watson, Rookies and position groups to watch for the Houston Texans heading into OTAs.

    Marking the second season of the Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine era, there will be plenty of new faces to pay attention to when the players hit the field for OTAs on Tuesday. The Houston Texans will be starting up their OTAs at the Methodist Training Center preparing for the 2019 season. This will mark the first time that the coaching staff will see the entire 90-man roster on the field allowing them to get a closer look at their potential roster for the upcoming season.

    Storylines for the Texans will evolve heading to the season, but here are some new trends we are paying attention to for OTAs.

    A Revamped Secondary

    As solid as the Texans defense played last season when the secondary needed to make plays when the ball was in the air in crunch-time they did not respond. At times in 2018, the secondary looked slow and outmatched against certain high-powered offenses. At the end of the season, Bill O’Brien made it clear that there would be fundamental change on the type of players needed at the position.

    Exit Tyrann Mathieu, Kareem Jackson, Kayvon Webster, Kevin Johnson, and Shareece Wright, also add the retirement of Andre Hal the secondary in returning two mainstays from last seasons group, veteran Johnathan Joseph and impact rookie Justin Reid. Enter brand new faces in Bradley Roby, Briean Boddy-Calhoun, Tashun Gipson, Jahleel Addae and rookie draft picks Lonnie Johnson Jr. and Xavier Crawford. There will need to be a bounce-back season from Aaron Colvin at the slot position. Jermaine Kelly Jr., Deante Burton or rookie Derrick Baity Jr. will need to make a significant jump for a roster spot.

    The Texans have to work fast to get the entire secondary on the same page, and they will be pressed for time to get the whole group to gel.


    The Return of D’Onta Foreman


    Returning late last season after tearing his achilles his rookie season, Foreman looked sluggish and like a player that hasn’t been on the field for a while. Also, suffering a set back during his journey back to the field, the Texans and Foreman feel that he will be ready for a bounce-back season in 2019. The Texans made little moves during the draft and free agency to suggest that they are worried about Foreman’s health. During the entire off-season, the organization has made it clear they liked the work Foreman has put in to get back in shape. With Lamar Miller entrenched as the primary running back for the offense. The Texans are expected to let Foreman prove that he can be the second running back in the offense they can depend on to make plays. There is still time for the Texans to make roster moves if Foreman shows any signs of not being ready. It is clear that Foreman is going to get plenty of work during this stretch to see what he can bring to the offense.


    Are They Going to Waste Time with the Veteran Offensive Tackles?

    The Texans went into the off-season with a clear plan, to upgrade the offensive tackle position. Despite sending signals, they liked how Julién Davenport was developing as a player. The Texans tried to replace him by attempting to land free agents Nate Solder and Trent Brown. Then they added often injured Matt Kalil and drafted Tytus Howard putting Davenport future with the team in doubt. The Texans also added Max Scharping in the second round despite re-signing Seantrel Henderson at the end of the season.

    Are the Texans going to let time pass with giving Kalil and Henderson time with the starting group over the rookies who are the future at the position?

    Over the years in the O’Brien era, the coaches have pushed first-rounders to contribute in year one and Nick Martin, a second-round selection, was instantly put into the starting lineup at center. Howard and Scharping are going to have to show they can handle the position against NFL level competition. With where both of the rookies selected with premium picks, the wait shouldn’t belong to see the two pushing to be starters protecting Deshaun Watson for the long haul.


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    The Texans and Deshaun need OB out of his earholes. One year of OB transformed him from elite speed getting rid of the ball to have to make a play.
     
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    #Texans 1st and 2nd round picks Tytus Howard and Max Scharping are practicing at the left and right guard spots, respectively.

    — Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


    #Texans rookie CB Lonnie Johnson is working with the 1 defense at OTAs.

    — Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019
     
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    1. Possible early thoughts: Kalil/Davenport and Henderson are getting all the reps at L/R tackle. Also possible that they start them at G before moving them further outside.

    2. I think Lonnie needs a lot of work. If he's starting with the 1's he has either impressed the coaches from rookie minicamp or they're letting some of the vets sit out of OTA's.
     
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    Are They Going to Waste Time with the Veteran Offensive Tackles?

    Well I hope so. Expecting the developmental rookies to start right away or even in year 1 is a bit delusional.

    Unfortunately it's also delusional to think kalil and Seantrel will be healthy and good.
     
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    Clowney. Hopkins and Watt are not out there. Hopkins and Watt are working out at NRG
     
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    Quick hits fro #Texans OTA

    Deshaun – Rusty at first, evened out. Anticipated blitz and changed protection and I smiled.

    D’onte Foreman – Svelte af. Crisp movement

    Lonnie Johnson – Used length well in red zone. Broke up a pass.

    Offense is simply BIGGER. TE and OL especially

    — Seth C. Payne (@SethCPayne) May 21, 2019
     
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    PFF HOU Texans‏@PFF_Texans 1h1 hour ago
    PFF HOU Texans Retweeted Aaron Wilson

    The three highest-graded Texans who played at least 150 snaps last season were not present for the start of voluntary OTAs.
     
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    Bill O’Brien says he’s soon "good progress" from D’Onta Foreman this offseason. Talks to him about consistency and continuing to string good days together. #Texans #OTAs

    — Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019


    Bill O’Brien on if the #Texans have interest in Gerald McCoy: "There’s a lot of players on the waiver wire. We talk about those everyday."

    — Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


    Justin Reid says he is going to be resource to his new secondary teammates. #Texans

    — patrick (@PatDStat) May 21, 2019


    Justin Reid credits Johnathan Joseph for his quick transition to the NFL, says he learned a lot from the veteran CB. #Texans #OTAs

    — Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019
     
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    #Texans DL D.J. Reader said of course he wants to get to the second contract. Feels like he has a home in Houston. pic.twitter.com/TN1eHnO30G

    — Cody Stoots (@Cody_Stoots) May 21, 2019


    Bill O'Brien on Jadeveon Clowney (@clownejd): "I have every belief and trust that JD's working on his own and getting ready for whenever he decides to show up. JD's played good football for us. He knows what it takes to be ready for training camp." #Texans pic.twitter.com/FkSwrRKGRD

    — Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) May 21, 2019


    O’Brien said RB D’Onta Foreman and WR Keke Coutee have both had good springs.

    — Drew Dougherty (@DoughertyDrew) May 21, 2019


    "Good learner, comes in early, works hard" – O’Brien on TE Kahale Warring. #Texans #OTAs

    — Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019
     
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    Seventh round pick Cullen Gillaspia said he feels a little ahead of the learning curve because A&M’s concepts are similar to what the #Texans demand out of fullbacks.

    "I still have a lot to learn," he adds. "This playbook is huge."

    — Aaron Reiss (@aaronjreiss) May 21, 2019


    All about building something in OTAs for #Texans QB Deshaun Watson. pic.twitter.com/iQOTzgrrd6

    — Cody Stoots (@Cody_Stoots) May 21, 2019


    Deshaun Watson mentions Tyron Johnson and Johnnie Dixon when asked about the rookie wide receviers making impressions. #Texans

    — patrick (@PatDStat) May 21, 2019
     
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    "Very strong. Great route running skills. If the ball is in his area he’s gonna go up and get it."

    Watson on new #Texans TE Kahale Warring.

    — Cody Stoots (@Cody_Stoots) May 21, 2019


    Deshaun Watson says Keke Coutee is faster, playing with more confidence and helping the younger receivers. #Texans #OTAs

    — Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) May 21, 2019
     
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    As it didn't look like an actual trip, with the auditory cadence you hear, it almost seemed like that was part of the drill.idonno:
     
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