Texans Free Agents/Salary Cap Situation: Where do we stand?

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by TheRealJoker, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. TheRealJoker

    TheRealJoker Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2005
    Messages:
    4,741
    Likes Received:
    1,077
    Location:
    Conroe
    Obviously our highest priority free agent is AJ Bouye who stands to make a lot of money this offseason.

    We also have to find a way to re-sign Hopkins to a long term deal.

    Where are we at in terms of cap space? Wilfork's contract is expiring and looks like he's retiring. We can slide Reader into his spot and save $ adding another rookie for depth.

    Possible cap casualties? Cushing stands out with his high dollar contract and Mckinney seeming to take his title as top ILB on a rookie contract.

    Do we sacrifice Jo Jo or Kareem to get Bouye a long term deal before he hits free agency?

    Contracts in need of restructuring:

    Possibly put Jo Jo and Kareem in this category as well.

    Obviously we didn't get our money's worth with Jeff Allen and Osweiller. We would not save much by cutting them outright and not sure how likely we can restructure them to a more team-friendly deal. They'll probably just play on the same contract and if they still are underperforming be cut outright the following season when it's more economically feasible.

    Other than re-signing Bouye and extending Hopkins. Is there any wiggle room for us to go out and sign an impact free agent? Any stellar Olinemen available?
     
  2. Brandon420tx

    Brandon420tx Flounder

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    5,333
    Likes Received:
    814
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    I'm not too interested in signing Bouye depending on the money. I mean he did play well this season but .... I've never seen a guy with so many defensive pass interference plays, both the ones he was flagged for and the ones he wasn't. If he wants a large amount of money I'd let him walk.

    Kareem needs to move to safety. We've been horrible at trying to get a safety in the draft, the best ones the Texans have are a converted CB (Hal) and a FA (Demps)
     
    pirbroke and ATXtexanfan like this.
  3. WolverineFan

    WolverineFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    7,292
    Likes Received:
    3,664
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    From what I can tell we are going to have about $25M in cap space. These are our FA's...

    Oday Aboushi (OG)
    A.J. Bouye (CB)
    Quintin Demps (S)
    Akeem Dent (LB)
    Ryan Griffin (TE)
    Jonathan Grimes (RB)
    Akeem Hunt (RB) [*ERFA]
    Don Jones (S)
    Shane Lechler (P)
    Nick Novak (K)
    David Quessenberry (OG)
    John Simon (LB)
    Antonio Smith (DL)
    Devon Still (DL)
    Vince Wilfork (DL)
     
  4. WolverineFan

    WolverineFan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    7,292
    Likes Received:
    3,664
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    I think it's going to take $7-8M a year minimum to retain him. As far as I can tell he's the #3 CB on the market behind Stephon Gilmore and Trumaine Johnson. Somebody is going to offer him money.
     
    Texian and JB like this.
  5. utahmark

    utahmark markbeth

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,018
    Likes Received:
    140
    Location:
    utah
    Keep Bouy, Demps, Hunt, Simon and the special teams guys. Draft two offensive lineman and a qb with the first 3 picks. Later in the draft maybe get a big safety who can move to linebacker to help cover on passing downs. Hope Brock retires and get ready for next year.
     
    Say Watt likes this.
  6. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2009
    Messages:
    33,795
    Likes Received:
    5,521
    Location:
    Wherever I was, I was more than likely drunk
    Lechler will probably retire and maybe Wilfork. Still won't be resigned and Novak may lose the job

    Smith wont be back, hopefully Demps loses his job and Dent and Aboushi will be cheap or gone. They'll probably restructure Cushing unless they convince him to retire. The team will be ok
     
  7. Number19

    Number19 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 2, 2004
    Messages:
    2,310
    Likes Received:
    617
    From comments I've read and/or heard on TV, there's been a rule change that has allowed more contact.by a defensive back. Bouye has taken full advantage of this. So many of the IP's that you may have thought occurred, actually may have been OK under the new rules.
     
    76Texan likes this.
  8. TripleTap

    TripleTap Dead Wood

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2015
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    120
    Somebody wise me up about Osweiler. As I look at it, if we keep him we pay him and he's wasted space. If we cut him we pay him but we gain a slot to use on a helpful player of some kind. So--why not cut him? We lose the money either way. why is this wrong?
     
    76Texan likes this.
  9. stepmart23

    stepmart23 Noob

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2017
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    According to Over The Cap's Salary Cap Calculator: http://overthecap.com/calculator/houston-texans we are currently $25 mil under the cap, but if we cut Brock now, we will only be $19 mil under the cap. So, that's the penalty for cutting Brock now according to that site.
     
  10. Scooter

    Scooter Funky

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    7,236
    Likes Received:
    2,047
    Admit your mistake, take the Osweiler hit and get it over with. As was said elsewhere he is a negative impact by taking up a roster spot. You only get 46 active players, it makes no sense tie a hitch to Oz just because he's expensive.
     


  11. DocBar

    DocBar Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    2,263
    Location:
    I'm international
    I agree with this, but wouldn't it be better to designate him a post June 1st cut?
     
  12. Scooter

    Scooter Funky

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    7,236
    Likes Received:
    2,047
    edit.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2017
  13. frethack

    frethack Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    179
    We are pretty much guaranteed to have Os on the roster next year, even if he's inactive for games.

    Draft a rookie early and let Savage, Weeden, and Os battle it out for starter. If the rook shows promise, put him in midseason. If not, draft another next year, dump Os and Savage (keep him if his contract is team friendly), bring in a quality vet if possible, and repeat the process.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
    *** Apologies, this post was meant for the QB thread ***
     
    ROO likes this.
  14. pirbroke

    pirbroke All Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2011
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    228
    Location:
    new braunfels

    I can't remember a time that 6 mil was better spent. Dump him, his subtraction off roster is instant team improvement


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
  15. Number19

    Number19 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 2, 2004
    Messages:
    2,310
    Likes Received:
    617
    I don't pretend to understand it, but his cap hit is $19M; but his dead cap is $25M. So we owe an extra $6M if we cut him?
     
    thunderkyss likes this.
  16. pirbroke

    pirbroke All Pro

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2011
    Messages:
    953
    Likes Received:
    228
    Location:
    new braunfels
    This is off the top of my head, so I definitely could be wrong. But I think it's higher because of future years on his contract. Say his salary is 19 mil this year but Texans must spend a portion of future years salary. Initial hit is harder ( first year ) but future years are much lower or even 0 against the cap.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
  17. Number19

    Number19 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 2, 2004
    Messages:
    2,310
    Likes Received:
    617
    Possibly the one link in our defense which might need addressing is an ILB who can cover RB's and TE's. The Pats exposed this with two TD passes to the RB.

    Akeem Dent did not play. He also is an UFA. When healthy, is he adequate for the coming year (if we focus on the OL) and do we resign him? Or do we need to go after someone else?
     
  18. DocBar

    DocBar Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    2,263
    Location:
    I'm international
  19. Sigma

    Sigma Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2011
    Messages:
    1,482
    Likes Received:
    392
    Location:
    PD - Italy
    if I recall correctly all the guaranteed money for Os will be paid this year. so either way (cut him or keep him) we are going to spend those money.

    my question is:

    if we keep him as a backup, do we need to pay him more money? like "active bonusses" or crap like that?
    and how much will that be?

    if that's a lot of money, could we cut him and use those money to get a better backup?

    if keeping him costs the same as cutting him I am fine with keeping him as the backup. why bother cutting him to spend even more money on a backup which will be a crappy QB ?

    unless you expect the Texans to suddently get 2 good QBs so if the starter gets injuried we still have a good backup QB to carry the team into the playoffs (lol)
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2017
  20. DocBar

    DocBar Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Messages:
    12,507
    Likes Received:
    2,263
    Location:
    I'm international
    I prefer cutting Os so he isn't a distraction to the team. I'm good with Savage, Weeden and a draft pick going forward.
     
    ROO and Number19 like this.

Share This Page