Texans' Defense: Really Kinda Almost Good, maybe?

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  1. dalemurphy

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    Okay, so clearly there were some colossal mistakes and some ugly defense by the Texans... but, I am encouraged by some things. For one, the aggressive style and the sloppiness did allow the Texans' offense 13 posessions, which they turned into 34 points.

    * The defense had 9 tackles for a loss in addition to its 2 turnovers... that's 11 negative plays, not counting a few penalties that the pressure created.

    * The defense had 7 posessions of 4 plays or less that ended in a punt or a turnover (not counting the short scoring drives)

    * The Texans gave up 10 points on the Titans final 10 posessions of the games.

    Clearly, the busted assignments and 3rd and long conversions have to be cleaned up before we start actually talking about the defense being good but clearly the defense has shown these first two weeks that it can make plays and has some serious potential. The good news is that Barber and Ferguson have been taken off the field and hopefully Okoye will be next.

    by the way, Antonio Smith was very disruptive yesterday.
     
  2. brakos82

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    I'm calling this defense "Boom-or-Bust". We let in the huge plays every once in a while, but other than those select few plays, we can be dominant.
     
  3. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    They're doing some good things during the course of the game which is nice but unless they can start stopping people regularly on third down they are not good. They're getting destroyed by the run right now (coming in 30th? Hell, Richard Smith was at 23 against the run when he was shown the door) and 23rd against the pass.

    We are still weak on the line but I'd say there's potential upside there still. We have a pretty good set of linebackers who I think will get better if Cushing stays healthy and continues to improve, and our secondary will get a little better when Reeves returns.

    We might be kind of good by the end of the year if all the stars align and they figure out how to fix all these stupid break downs.
     
  4. Porky

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    Ya, I can defeintely see the potential. It's like periods of awesomeness followed by brief bursts of total suckage. If the total suckage can be turned into just decentness, this D can be very good. But, this is a pattern not just these first two games, but going back to Minn and NO as well.

    Instead of the bend but don't break defenses we are used to, this is more like the safety glass defense. It's tough as hell to get thru but when someone punches a hole hard enough in it, it doesn't flex it shatters into a million pieces.
     
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    The busted plays are the most concerning to me. It's a trend that started in the preseason and kept biting us in the butt straight through both of the first two games. The long runs for touchdowns are frustrating, but it's the blown coverages that I find completely dumbfounding. I mean seriously, when someone lines up at wide receiver, a defender is supposed to recognize that person and account for them on the play. What's the mystery in that?

    These guys have been playing/coaching football for most of their lives and are getting paid millions but they can't figure out that someone needs to go stand in front of a wide out. Stupidity this deeply rooted surely can't be coming from just one person. Errant coaching and player naivety would have to unite forces to make the kind of stupid we've witnessed thus far.
     
  6. Speedy

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    455.5 yards per game.

    215 rushing yards per game.

    190 yards per game on THIRD DOWN.

    11-17 (65%) conversion rate on 3rd and 7 yards or more.

    1 sack in 2 games.

    I don't think it's close to being good
     
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    I don't think the defensive mistakes yesterday can be blamed on Frank Bush or, for the most part, his more aggressive play-calling. I think we just had some players on the field, mostly young ones, that screwed up here and there. It will get better.

    One a side note, I agree with you about the safeties, but I think Okoye is coming along. He's holding his lanes for the most part and he's just done it against some very good O-lines. I expect some big games out of him the next few weeks, relatively speaking anyway.
     
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    One player screwed up and wasn't looking when the RB went out wide. It's all on him, considering how fast CJ is. The coaches couldn't even see it because it happened on the other side of the field. Yes, it was moronic, but it just comes down to one moron who hopefully learned a lesson.
     


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    Where's your QB(s) on the field for our defense? Aren't Demeco and our safeties supposed to be keeping an eye on these things on the field, or are they supposed to have tunnel vision on their own assignments. How hard is it to notice a wide out with open grass in front of them.
     
  10. Porky

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    moron = Barber :cow:
     
  11. 76Texan

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    This defense is a joke thus far.
    And the Titans is not a great passing team by any stretch of imagination!
     
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    They only had 150 yards passing if you discount that ridiculous pitch and catch to an undefended chris johnson
     
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    I would say DeMecco he is the defensive Captain and play caller.
     
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    Barber shouldn't need anyone else to tell him to cover a wide-out, not surprising that a MLB didn't see it, and Barber is the safety. He definitely should've told himself. :gun:

    I do seem to remember a CB in the area covering another wide-out on the same side, though, and I don't know why the *&(^ he wasn't screaming bloody murder. I gotta give you that one.
     
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    The problem is, it does count.

    TD plays of 30, 38, 57, 69 and 91 yards. And don't forget 2 other plays of 39 and 40. That's just TWO games.

    Holy crap man!! They've ALMOST got me wishing Smith was still here.
     
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    The leaders on our D need to try and keep an eye out for these mishaps. There was plenty of stupid to go around.
     
  17. JDizzle

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    And Andre only had 75 yards receiving if you take away his ridiculous big yardage score.

    You see, that dog doesn't hunt in the NFL. Games often come down to a play or two and can go either way.
     
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    I do like mostofwhat Isaw.On 3rd and very long, I want the more concervative play calling.
     
  19. 76Texan

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    There was no CB on this side.

    Demeco was busing telling Diles and Cushhing what to do.
    The Titans were in 2-TE formation.
    We had Cushing on Crumpler on this side.
    Then Crumpler went into motion and setlled next to the TE on the other side.
    Demeco was busy telling Cushing and Diles to switch places.

    If we intended to play 2-deep safeties, it would have been Diles who needed to take the RB out of the backfield.
     
  20. noxiousdog

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    It certainly counts, but the difference is that it's a mental error. Mental errors *should* be fixable. If you're just not fast or strong, there's not anything you can do about it.
     
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