Texans, Cowboys battling it out for states top pick in 2005 Draft

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  1. nunusguy

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    Philly pummelling Dallas as McNabb-Owens show they are the real deal in
    this weeks MNF game.
     
  2. HowBoutThemCowboys!

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    Indeed.....
     
  3. WWJD

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    Even as badly as the Texans played the last 2 weeks they have the better team and bigger upside. They have drafted better than the Cowboys and improved at some positions while the Cowboys have regressed and badly.
     
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    Cowboys could have the first two picks for the state in 2005, since they have Buffalo's first round also.
     
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    At this point I don't see why Henson doesn't play. You're not making the palyoffs so might as well see if your youngster can play. If it turns out he can't then you'll be better prepared to deal with it in the off-season. Looks like the NYG are finally letting Manning get some PT.
     
  6. WWJD

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    I think the Cowboys are a lock for a top 10 pick and maybe even higher.

    It's hard to believe after watching them last night that there is a worse team in the NFL.
     
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    Parcells is totally against letting Henson play, they showed a clip during last night's game of him saying it at a press conference. I think the media has been hounding him about it also. I don't think Testaverde is the problem though, they have no running game and no defense.
     
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    I agree with you that Vinny is not the reason behind thier poor play, but how much longer should he be in the plans for the future? What's the point in going with someone that won't be there much longer and the season is in the pooper?
     


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    I don't think he'll be there after this year, so they are probably just playing him to get their money's worth out of him, I think he signed like a 1 year/$1 mil contract or something. Or maybe Parcells thinks they have a shot at the playoffs, I dunno really. What I heard Parcells tell the media is, "Why do I want to put in a guy who has been out of football for three years playing baseball, who hasn't proven anything." There was more to what he said but I don't remember it all.
     
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    What he really said was he did not want to throw Henson in there with the receivers they have and little or no opportunity to do well. I think he's afraid since the cast around Henson is so poor it will be bad for him.

    I DO understand that point; they are woeful on offense but there is no chance for the playoffs and I personally think he should be playing at least when the game is not on the line. I disagree with the coach about that.

    He's trying to protect Henson I think.
     
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    The Texans And Cowboys Got Outscored 98-35 This Week. Maybe If We Put Our Two Teams Together We Could Hold Them Under 35.
     
  12. WWJD

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    :) :)

    I'd take the Texans defense right now straight up over the Cowboys. They let McNabb run around for 16 seconds I think before throwing a TD pass. Incredible.
     
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    Dallas will have two really high picks. And that can be an exciting thing. But what they do with those picks has me concerned. If Jones trades both in order to pick up a plethora of 2/3rd rounders, I'm going through the roof.

    What this team is lacking is playmakers. Odds are, you're going to find those in the first round. And I damn sure have seen no reason to believe they can find talent in the later rounds. Heck, they haven't shown the ability to find talent in the early rounds.

    With Buffalo's pick and with our own, we should have two top 10 draft picks. If I'm the GM, my job is simple:

    1. Antrel Rolle - Will probably be the best available player at the time and will also fill a need. Kill two birds with one stone.

    2. David Pollack/Erasmus James - Which ever one is on the board. If both are gone...trade down. I'd like to get a 3rd to replace the pick given to Houston.

    3. 2nd round, pray Ernest Shazor is still on the board. I love Darren Woodson. He has been a great ambassador for the league and for the Dallas Cowboys. But his time has come. He needs to hang up the cleats so that Roy Williams can move to his natural position and let a young playmaker (like Shazor) take over at FS.

    See, this NFL stuff ain't so hard.
     
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    Just a few months ago you said Pollack was "all hype and no substance." Don't tell me you have changed your mind Huge. :shocked
     
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    Jerruh loves Quincy Carter. Will probably trade Buffalos no.1 to Jets for Quincy. :heh: :heh:
     
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    Yeah, "no substance" was a bit of an exaggeration.

    But that conversation centered around Pollack winning the Hendricks award over more deserving DEs. His stats were inflated and the media jumped all over him because of his sophomore season. That was the hype.

    In fact, you can review that discussion here.

    As you'll see, I said that the other players having better seasons didn't mean they were better players than Pollack. Just that they deserved the award more than he did. That was a compliment to Pollack.
     
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    I was at a game once and Troy did the same thing. They break from the huddle and they don't look down and just go to an area..which in this case was the wrong person.


    BTW Huge...I've read where Woodson is almost definitely done for the year and has entertained thoughts of retiring because the surgery and rehab time has been tough on him. He's got a family to consider so I am thinking he'll probably just retire. He's been a good one. Hate to see him go.
     
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    Yeah, it's a shame for Darren. I really feel sorry for the guy. Before the season he was all pumped up to achieve his only goal- To win in Jacksonville in Febuary. Now time's running out on this season and his career.
     
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    I'm sorry I cannot provide a link but to be honest I do not remember where I read it but the article had an interview with Woody and he said he had been practicing and he just had nothing in his legs. No strength, no push, no drive. He made some comment that it was very frustrating because he had been rehabbing a long time and done very well. But after actually preparing in a practice situation he was very let down because it was obvious he was not ready for any game situation. I believe, ultimately, he will retire. He's mid 30's I think and it was around the corner anyway. I really like the guy too. He's just been so steady back there. And I do believe one of their major problems on defense was not being able to replace him.
     

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