Texans at Rams: First Impressions?

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  1. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    Wali Lundy is a rookie. He's a good fit for this system but he's still a rookie.

    Vinny was on to something where Vernand Morency is concerned. He looked a lot like vintage Domanick Davis to me tonight only faster. If he keeps this up Domanick Davis will be a 3rd down back again.

    Dave Ragone is much better fit for the Rams offense than he was for the one we were running. He was an even worse fit for the one we run now. He still looks awkward to me though.

    Buchanon can cover but the announcer was right about that first pass interference penalty. That was all Phillip. The second one was a crock.

    By my estimation this is the second week I feel that we should have broken 30 points but didn't.

    Our first string D did a very good job tonight. In years past we couldn't have afforded a slow start like that and would have been down 14-0 or 17-0 before Carr and the offense got moving. It's nice to have the luxury of a dependable D again. We had one in 2002 but it was gone the next year and never came back.

    Ok, maybe Taylor can be a beast.

    Mario Williams looked like a highly regarded rookie this week which is nice.

    David Carr made what appeared to me to be some very bad decisions. He pulled out of it in the 2nd quarter but I was nervous until we reached the half.

    This (2-0 in the preseason and looking like they care) is an immense improvement over years past.

    Kris Brown gives me that "Brad Lidge" feeling. I think we need a kicker.
     
  2. Historyhorn

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    Morency was a good back at Okie State. He was a slashing style runner that I believed would work well in the zone blocking scheme system. I wasn't really able to understand why he was having so much trouble with juking and lollygagging behind the LOS. It's good to see that he's starting to get "it".

    With a team that's building like the one we have, we can't afford to miss field goals when we get the opportunities. Those will kill a young and upcoming team as they try to take on teams that are more experienced and have the confidence that winning brings.

    Go Texans
     
  3. TexanSam

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    David Carr looked jitterish at first, but settled down in at the end of 1st quarter and played well in the 2nd.

    Morency looked very good. Good pass blocker. May have the upper hand over Lundy.

    Buchanon had a very good game. 1st pass interference call was his fault, but the 2nd was the refs fault. He may be our Jerome Mathis as a punt returner.

    Rosenfels looks like a very capable backup.

    Peek may be in for a very good year. Dwight Freeney-lite.

    The offensive line didn't look as good as they did last week. They weren't bad, but they weren't good either. They were decent.

    The first team defense looked much improved over last week. Especially the pass rush.

    McCleon isn't the answer as the 2nd string CB. Buchanon may be. We need Faggins back though as our 3rd CB.
     
  4. jerek

    jerek Pro Hobbyist

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    I will admit, it always seems like it takes Carr a series or two to settle down. Not sure why that is.

    Good post Herv and I agree with just about all of it. Most notable is your comments on the D being dependable and keeping us in the game early on; so true. So wonderful.
     
  5. Grid

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    Its amazing what a little competition will do to help someone "get it" :D.

    Put a couple promising rookies in front of him and say "run it right or you wont be here for week 1" and suddenly he looks like the best back on our roster (including DD).

    I hope he keeps it up. Morency and Lundy look like a good possibility for a "thunder and lightning" running game.. though neither of them quite fit into the thunder, or lightning, mold.. they are both somewhere in between.. which works fine too :D.
     
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    Kris Brown gives me that "Brad Lidge" feeling. I think we need a kicker.[/QUOTE]

    :rofl:
     
  7. michaelm

    michaelm vox nihili

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    Two very general feelings I have after two preseason games.

    This year we will run the ball, and stop the run better than any previous year in franchise history.
    We seem to get positive yardage on a high, high percentage of running plays, and it looks to me like there will be at least a couple of running plays each game where the line just blows out the middle of the DLine for a big/huge gain.

    Defensively, we've kept two above average rushing attacks in check. I am very optimistic about our run D, and that will effect the entire defense in a positive way.
     
  8. Texans Horror

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    Morency looks terrific. I like having this competition between Morency and Lundi, so long as it stays healthy.

    Mario Williams is improving, and that is a big thing for the franchise.

    Too many 3-and-outs in the first quarter, but the line was missing (for the most part) Wand and McKinney. Wand made some great blocks when he was out there. He added yards to the play. Spencer looks great too. He can really back up a defender...we have a line. Carr was still sacked, but...we have a line...wow...

    Kris Brown is scaring me.

    Peek isn't. When used appropriately, he is a monster.

    The change in attitude and hustle is amazing. It does wonders for the viewer.
     


  9. South Texan

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    Secondary needs depth and more work.

    Carr might have been told to concentrate on AJ instead of considering other targets. Also, seemed like he had to play "vanilla" tonight, in my mind the jury is still out on him. Sage is very solid backup and will probably be a starter for someone in the next couple of years.

    Even if DD's knee prevents him from playing much, we are OK at running back.

    Fullback position still needs to be addressed.

    Defense was awesome in the last 2 minutes of the game with the goal line stand.

    More consistancy in the trenches needed on both sides of the ball, but they did seem improved tonight.

    Some guys I like are gonna get cut.:crying:

    After we beat Denver next week will they rename it the Texans' Scheme? :challenge

    The Seatle vs. Indy game tomorrow will be very interesting to see if Indy's weaknesses are opposite our strengths, ie. are the chinks in Indy's armour things we can take advantage of.

    Last year is a quickly dying memory for us. How long till the "experts" catch on to how much we have changed?:yahoo:
     
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    I missed the 1st quarter, but my thoughts from then on... :

    - Sage Rosenfels was a head scratcher when we picked him up, but not any more. Not only can the guy play, he displays great leadership.

    - I want Domanick to get healthy, but only because I like the guy. We're fine with the backs we have now. Morency tore it up tonight and Lundy is giving him plenty of competition.

    - The line still looks great.

    - The DLine was better tonight. Travis Johnson played well, IMO. We did much better against the run than against the Chiefs.

    - Buchanon was a rollercoaster, big ups and downs. It seemed like they wanted to pick on him like he got picked on last season, but he looks better than he did last year so far.

    - Carr made some bad decisions, but he played ok overall. Seemed like they went away from the rollout with him somewhat tonight. Andre looks solid.

    - Our FB's got to make some plays, and btw Joppru looked alright at FB.

    - Has Putzier done anything yet? How about Walter?
     
  11. Smash_Mouth_Mario

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    What do you think about Buchanon overall?

    About the 30pts. I love the fact that we can disrupt the opponents offense. But did we have our 1st string O on the field late in the game? Don't you think that could have helped us get 30?

    Yeah, I agree on Brown. I'm not sure about him.
     
  12. ccdude730

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    my impressions:

    david carr got off to a bad start and glad he got us down the field at the end of the first half. seems like he has trouble getting things going but he was smart and threw the ball away when he knew he could not make anything happen

    morency was spectacular tonight at picking up the blitz and getting positive yards, lundy needs work in pass protection but did well when they gave him the rock.

    joppru took a shot after a nice grab! glad he got up but i wish we could have seen more from our TEs tonight. the backscreen with putz was a great playcall...

    Dline did really good tonight, we only gave up 61 yards on the ground and the pressure was getting there with only 4 guys rushing. very impressed with TJ and peek. mario did some really good things tonight as well (better than last week) and all i ask is he continues to grow and learn while being a force in the trenches

    our depth at CB seems a bit weak at times but with pbuch doing pretty well tonight he might reclaim his starting spot. i did not see lewis sanders, but with him and petey it does not look too bad for us.

    we had 182 return yards with pbuch looking good at fielding the punts, but there is still questions around the kickoff return man until mathis or someone steps up (maybe anderson). kris brown can not miss a 37 yard field goal

    thats all i can think of right now. i really am glad we got a win tonight :bananasplit:
     
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  13. Smash_Mouth_Mario

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    Putzier had a key 1st quarter 1st down reception.
     
  14. TEXANS84

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    1st quarter was very sub-par.
     
  15. michael123

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    First off with the qb position

    carr needs to chill out, for some reason he seems nervous when he is in the pocket, (from past experience 76 sacks) need to relax and have fun his line is way better than last year, or he will be on the bubble, rosefelts is a good back up,,

    Morency reminds me of a young tomlison i hope he is the starter by the start of the season, and keeps improving. lundy reminds me of tiki barber doesnt have speed but can hit the holes hard.

    the reciver that stood out too me as lewis that guy is crazy, love that catch and celebration..

    The D was good but still need to improve i liked mario in his tackles for loss plays and peeks sacks wow that man is a beast.

    but i love the winning attitude keep it up:redtowel: :redtowel: :redtowel: :yahoo:
     
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    Yea after reading through the game thread it sounds like they were getting plenty of pressure on Carr and he wasn't avoiding it very well. Good to hear Putzier got involved as well as Joppru. Sounds like Spencer had a rough go of it with the 1st teamers....Wand's hopes are still alive.
     
  17. Smash_Mouth_Mario

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    Those are very good comparisons.
     
  18. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I think Buchanon can be the kind of player we traded for. I think that on a team that gets consistent pressure he's a real threat to haul in some picks and that his return game is valuable. I think he played a very good game but made one big mistake (the first interference call) which I can accept. I think he'll get a little better before it's all said and done.
     
  19. veazeyt

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    About the Carr thing, the Rams were throwing a lot of blitzes at him. Almost every play in the first quarter. If Lundy was there to make the block he would just get run over or a penalty would be called for holding.

    Then when Morency came he was able block some of the persuing LBs and such. Once he picked up the blitzes, they went to some run plays. Morency was getting success and Carr started looking more comfortable in the pocket.

    In addition, there were no roll out plays called for Carr this week. I think he was very successful with those last week.

    I agree with the FB positions and safeties. There were some really nice hits being made in the secondary, unfortunately they were being made in the secondary. Later on in the game, you could see that we dont have much depth in the secondary because their 3rd stringers were reeling in alot of catches.

    Putzier had a beautiful screen play run up for him and he was stumbling bumbling rampage down the middlle of the field afre the catch. (1st QTR)

    I did see Mccleon makes some decent plays, I would not write him off by any means. I mean he did block a field goal in all.
     
  20. Hardcore Texan

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    We are off to a better start than ever before in the pre-season, overall the whole offensive unit looked sloppy the first couple of possessions and then they got into a rythm and looked pretty good.

    Carr looked off a bit at first, settle in and made good, sound decisions and throws, and got bettter as the game went on. We had protection problems early on also, our RB's weren't picking up the blitz i.e. Lundy. Morency lit it up, and did a good job with blocking, if DD can't go, he will be our starter. Rosenfels looked good, but faded a bit.

    Defense did alot of bending but not breaking, had stops when it counted, Mario had more of a presence, and Peek tore it up.

    Overall, we should be happy with our Texans, we have things to work on but should be very solid all around, good coaching can help that happen I hear.
     

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