Texan's 2005 O line stats...

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  1. texan279

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    Sorry if this has been posted, but I searched for 10 minutes and did not find this posted. I am bored out of my mind so thought I would look it all up.

    Chester Pitts - 5 penalties, 8.25 sacks allowed, 16 games played
    Victor Riley - 4 penalties, 7 sacks allowed, 10 games played
    Milford Brown - 6 penalties, 5 sacks allowed, 13 games played
    Steve McKinney - 3 penalties, 9.25 sacks allowed, 16 games played
    Zach Wiegert - 2 penalties, 5.5 sacks allowed, 12 games played
    Todd Wade - 5 penalties, 6 sacks allowed, 9 games played
    Drew Hodgdon - 2 penalties, .5 sacks allowed, 4 games played

    One interesting thing I noticed is that in 8 seasons, Steve McKinney has never been credited with allowing more than 4 sacks until this season.
     
  2. V Man

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    Did it list the number of games that they played?

    Just those numbers makes it look like Riley had a better season than Pitts, and we know that didn't happen.
     
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    Yeah I forgot to post it, I'll add that now.
     
  4. infantrycak

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    Keep in mind Riley only started about 4 games at LT. The rest of his games came at RT or in part time play.

    FYI also, for those who think of Pitts as a false start machine, he had 1 false start in 2005 and 1 holding penalty.
     
  5. HardKnockTexan

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    It'd be nice to see a stat listing the total number of snaps taken by each lineman. Also a pancake stat would be nice too. Games played VS Sacks just doenst tell the whole story IMO.
     
  6. TheOgre

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    Hodgdon really is a good pass-blocker, but he is overmatched trying to run-block.
     
  7. ArlingtonTexan

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    would like to see which site you got the nubmers from.
     
  8. texan279

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    I'll take a guess and say Stats, Inc..
     
  10. Texans Horror

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    I'm seeing where a Bentley or Nalen could help...
     
  11. humbleone

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    Nice post...interesting stuff. More fuel for the "we need to finally invest in an O-line" camp (which I am in btw).
     
  12. I didn't see him get bowled over, is that what you saw?

    I did see him seal his blocking lanes in some of the running plays.
     
  13. Texans_Chick

    Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer

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    It would be nice to get a veteran guy or two in here who still has gas in the tank. The value of having veteran guys who have experienced success to help the younger guys along cannot be overestimated. We will likely have to overpay some to get these guys unless it happens with some sorta trade down scenario.

    It was interesting to hear Chester Pitts on 610 talk about how he has improved from season to season. He says it is pretty much night and day from how it was his first couple of seasons. The learning curve on the Oline is steep, and when you make mistakes on it, you are exposed.

    Whatever happens, it would be nice if we could get some consistency on our Oline, few injuries, and pass protection play that looks like a normal NFL team. They were looking better near the end of the season, but they were playing some pretty sorry teams.
     
  14. Texans Horror

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    From the same site, I plugged in Nalen and Bentley, who are MB favorites right now...

    Nalen (16 GS)
    4 penalties (1 false/3 holding)
    2 sacks

    Bentley (14 GS)
    3 penalties (1 false/2 holding)
    2.75 sacks
     
  15. TheOgre

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    I saw him getting pushed back/bowled over on run plays. Not every time but enough to have concerns. I haven't broken down film, but I have just seen it happend a few times to him. I will admit that my opinion is based on a limited body of work.
     
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    Interesting stats. Anyone know how they assign sack blame? For instance, if a lineman is tied up with a rusher, but a blitzing defender runs by him, does he get hit with a sack? And what about skill positions and how often they blew their blocking or failed to pick up the blitz?

    For some reason to me, these stats are great but fail to paint a complete picture.
     
  17. TheOgre

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    I would hope they use someone in the "know" of who blew the assignment. I don't know what you would do in a situation where the defense stacks one side of the line and there aren't enough blockers to get them all. Perhaps this is unassigned or the blame is passed to someone on the other side of the line. Good question though. It would be nice to know.
     
  18. Texans Horror

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    I don't know, but I just read on another of our threads that we gave up 68 sacks last year. Count up the ones listed in this thread, and we are missing quite a few. I know some of those were sacks given up by Carr. I wonder if they have a stat for sacks given up by TEs/RBs/etc.
     
  19. Runner

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    We also played more lineman than are on that list.
     
  20. rmartin65

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    Pitts gave up more sacks than I thought.
     

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