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Takeaways from the Falcons game.

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  1. disaacks3

    disaacks3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Meh. It tells me that the O'Brien version is an offshoot of the Belichick implementation...that you need a Brady-type to run effectively. Very few NFL teams run either a "pure" or "simplified" E-P.
     
  2. mws

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    Hell all the offenses seem hard to me. Years ago I downloaded a PDF of Wade Phillips defensive playbook from the 2003 Falcons. It was very complicated so I assume offenses are that bad or worse.

    If you want to look at it you can get it here.
     
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    Falcons have one of worst defenses in football.
     
  4. TheKDog

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    Falcons have a bad defense but they had not given up more than 28 points in any game.
     
  5. 76Texan

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    From Chris Simms (who ranks Watson as the no. 5 QB in the NFL even before the season started.)

     
  6. steelbtexan

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    In 2020 they will have a 2nd/ Two 3rds (Seattle's and a Comp pick) 4-1/ The rest of their draft picks. I kinda hope they trade a 2020 3rd for a 2021 2nd.

    So yes they dont have a 1st rd pick, but they have enough high 2nd/3rd's to move into the 20-32 1st rd range if there's a guy they really like. (Say a CB like Amik Robertson/C.J. Henderson/Levonta Taylor.)

    I would like to know the CB's you like that might be there in the 2nd/3rd rd. You're much better at CB evals than I am.

    Edges are 2nd/3rd rd guys for sure. No trading up for those guys. If you would give your thoughts in the draft thread I would love to see them.
     
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    thunderkyss It's good to be me... again. Staff Member

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    Cynthia Frelund from NFLNetwork said Watson could be the highest scoring QB for week 5 because we were playing the Falcons at home. To be clear, she said this before the game.
     
  8. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss It's good to be me... again. Staff Member

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    Well there's a big difference between 37 months & 25.

    He just started year three & year 1 was cut short. & the 7 games of year one was nothing like BO'bs ideal offense.

    Don't get me wrong. I think he's a little behind as well. He should have the line calls down pat.
     
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  9. eriadoc

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    As I posted in the game thread the day before the game:

     
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  10. austins23

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    :clap:! Good call, bet you didn't bet the over though! lol

    edit: I bet no one did
    edit #2: This was from USA today betting line.
    Over/Under (?)

    Follow the early-season trend for both teams and back the UNDER (49.5, -125). Neither offense is living up to its potential.
     
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  11. CloakNNNdagger

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    Not to try to take away anything from Sunday's victory, but the Falcons hardly blitzed (I can't remember if they did at all). I'd like to see our "new scheme" now against a heavy blitz team to see if the combination of Watson reading, O'Brien calling, and the O blocking and route running can come together under those circumstances to result in a Falcon outcome.
     
  12. thunderkyss

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    Agreed. But I'll take an injury riddled KC defense this week & I hope there's something to slow down the Colts defense next week.

    Watson's been playing top defense after top defense for a while now. He could use a break. Play some "regular" defenses for a change.
     
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    they traded away 2nd & 3rd already. I have on interest anymore in what they do or don’t do draft wise, because they don’t even have a draft left to develop.
    Not going to invest much time into draft anymore but have seen Utah corner Jaylon Johnson, 6-0 190 and he looks very solid in all facets with upside to become a starter someday in the NFL. Currently he's projected 3-4th rd. but its waayy to early for that.

    Was good to see the OL play much better, not sure what was up with false start Scharping but hopefully that gets resolved. Even Martin looked better. Of course its all about match-ups and health going forward too.

    No pics are safe either with O'Brian going all in to save his job. They do have 2020 2nd just not 2021 and of course 1st's for two years. Thanks for compliment!
     
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    Should the Texans try more 2 TE sets?


    OCTOBER 8, 2019 BY RIVERSMCCOWN_1RDKF6
    How the Texans got their groove back in 12-personnel
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    Last season, the Texans ran the ball a ton out of 12 personnel (one back, two wideouts, two tight ends) — they ran from that set almost as often as they did from their more common 11 personnel (one back, three wideouts, one tight end) sets despite passing from 11 personnel about twice as often.

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  15. thunderkyss

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    Not next year's 2nd. A 2021 2nd.

    Next year we have our 2nd, Seattle's 3rd, Miami's 4th, & our 4th.
     
  16. Earl34

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    Those are some interesting stats and they should try more 2 TE sets. I like the flexibility of the 2 TE sets. Shoot, if I want to watch a team spend the majority of their time in the shotgun formation running dive plays, I can go watch any local high school team that's running the spread offense.

    Any good analytics or QA person on staff should be able to identify these tendencies. They have a higher passing success rate out of 12 personnel, but they choose to pass almost twice as frequently out of 11 personnel. Go figure.
     
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    Probably ran more out of 12 last year because they simply had to have those TEs on the field because of how bad the OL was. Then there's the fact that there's only 2 TEs currently seeing snaps so far this year.
     
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    I like Stills personally.
     
  19. TexansBull

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    Can’t get stats if he can’t catch the ball.
     
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    And most likely a compensatory 3rd.
     
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