Super Awesome Technique info about Gibbs' DB's

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  1. barrett

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/3078/for-texans-cbs-out-with-backpedal-in-with-shuffle

    I'll be looking for this on Sunday for sure.
     
  2. Vinny

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    your hips are open but it seems to me that it would be easier for a wr to get you turned around with crossing patterns or out patterns.
     
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    There is more than one way to skin a cat, and our cat skinning the last seven years in the secondary didn't get it done.

    I like the buy-in from Quin, but this fan base is beyond buy-in, we need results.
     
  4. HOU-TEX

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    "Super Awesome Technique...."? Did I venture off to a Star Wars message board or something?

    "Hey Poindexter, take a look at my new super awesome technique with my lightsaber".

    JK, dude. Just sounded kinda nerdy
     
  5. Porky

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    I've heard the term "open hips" used many times, but I'm not sure I totally understand the concept. Can Vinny or one of the real football gurus explain what is meant by open hips?
     
  6. Vinny

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    when your knees are in front of you, your hips are closed. You backpedal with closed hips. When you turn and run you open your hips by getting your knees outside of your body. Coaches say that the hips don't lie and your feet always follow your hips so you concentrate on rotating your hips moreso than moving your feet. Some guys can't open up and turn and run as fast as others
     
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    Ahhh. Ok makes total sense. Thanks for the education Vincent! :devilpig:
     
  8. eriadoc

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    I don't see that at all. With this method, you can easily move left or right. So out patterns have no special advantage against this at all, and the crossing pattern is likely only going to mess up the guy that doesn't have his assignment correct in his head.

    If I'm understanding what they're saying correctly, then this method will keep the players on the balls of their feet the same, but with minimal separation from the ground. That results in less body rise/body fall, which makes it easier to move laterally, keeps your balance better, and makes it easier to turn and move your center.
     


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    if you are not backpeddling you are turned one way or another. On choice routes a wr is always going to choose to run to the side of the field the cb isn't facing. It only takes a second to create space in this league.
     
  10. 76Texan

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    I have an example, but I don't think it's suitable for this forum, LOL!

    Anyway, I remember reading about Sean Smith (Utah)... why his stiff hips do not allow him to open up to turn/change direction. Why he reverts to the shuffle and bail technique. But that allows the receiver to get separation as Vinny had mentioned.

    And why some thought he would do better at safety.
     
  11. Porky

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    Again excuse my ignorance here, but on the outside receivers, what if the DB played more to the outside shoulder of the receiver so that it almost forces the WR to take the inside position?
     
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    Then you give up the quick slant route easily, for one!
     
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    FWIW, Sean Smith has beaten 1st rounder Vontae Davis out for the starting CB spot opposite Will Allen.

    Just thought I'd throw a little meaningless info out there.:)
     
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    I see the difference in what was in my head and what they're saying. They are turned sideways - I remember seeing this now. Of course, that raises a couple questions for me, but I'll work those out on the mat.
     
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    I read that one awhile ago!
    Just thought I throw out the same! :ant:
     
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  17. Porky

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    What if you have safety or LB help inside? :headhurts:
     
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    That can be good, for example, when I watched Patrick Chung play the rover for the Ducks last year. He would hover close to the LOS and switched quickly to the outside receiver (and more often than not, he will make a good tackle for a very short gain).

    However, that would be double team.
    And a proficient passing attack won't go into the double team.
    It will go elsewhere, looking for a one-on-one situation surely! :shades:
     
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    Ok then we're doomed! :gun:
     
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    It's not nearly as bad as that!
    The rover still has an eye on the RB, so if you play it this way, you don't necessarily have to commit to a double team.
    Just that your rover needs to be fast in case the RB go the other way.

    Ehhr, we don't have a super fast safety either, LOL! :headhurts:
     

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