Stop! Dogging DUANE BROWN

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  1. Bull

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    Some people in the national media want to beat on D.Brown

    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/13/lab-results-houston-texans/

    :texflag:Lets start with some facts:
    Brown came in as the starting left tackle and had to play the hardest pass rusher schedule in NFL History! NOT AN EXCUSE! JUST FACT!
    Brown played the 2007 season at Virginia Tech then attended the NFL Combine straight in to the hardest pass rusher schedule in History.I don't know many 300 pound men that can play two years straight without a let down.Oh?Did I say the Texans had the 3rd best offense in the NFL,or 4th in passing,13th in rushing. Yes,he had some sacks and penalities!
    But give the man a break! Lets see what happens in 2009

    http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4472

    :fans:What you think?
     
  2. Ckw

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    Agreed. I am looking forward to seeing what he does this season. :texflag:
     
  3. NitroGSXR

    NitroGSXR Super Sic #58

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    I really enjoyed that article. It's already been posted by Texans_Chick. I also enjoyed the comments section. I learned a lot about Duane Brown. That article actually made me feel better about our selection of Duane Brown. I'm feeling pretty good about him.
     
  4. Bull

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    Your are right!Texans Chick gets all the credit! Its a reference. But the critizing continues.:shades:
     
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    NitroGSXR Super Sic #58

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    I didn't really see much criticizing in there. I thought both Augustus and TT both came to the discussion armed with information. I enjoyed reading Augustus despite him being a naysayer.

    Again, I feel better about Duane Brown not directly as a result of what the article or either comment poster but because I took in what they all had to say and coupled it in with what I personally have seen of Duan Brown. I made my own assertation. I'm not even considering the possibility of a sophomore slump.

    Duane Brown or bust!
     
  6. Wolf

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    I am not dogging him,



    I will leave it as this

    ... to be the best, you have to block the best
     
  7. Texecutioner

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    A little curious? Where did you get this assertion that he faced the toughest pass rush in a season in the history of the NFL?
     
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    NitroGSXR Super Sic #58

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    Maybe if you read the article...
     


  9. m5kwatts

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    Agreed. He has all the tools to become a great left tackle. His best game was the 2nd Tennessee game, he held his own all game and didn't give up a sack. I remember Ephraim was in for a few downs against Vanden Bosch and was getting dominated in the phone booth, Brown came in and stone walled him and we got a huge 3rd down conversion. I know Eric Winston gets all the media accolades but by the end of the season he was a better pass block than EW, and possibly and equivalent run blocker. In a few years we'll be saying this guy is one of our keys to having success.
     
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    I'm with you. I was just thinking that he may even be able to overshadow Mario Williams as the Texans best 1st round pick. Duane's going to be around for a long time. Bruce Matthews anyone?
     
  11. Texecutioner

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    I did, and I fail to see how this article proved that at all. They would have had to researched every single rookie OT that ever played and researched every type of defensive scheme and players that each rookie OT faced in a 14 or 16 game season. I highly highly doubt the author of this article did that. That would have taken an extremely long time to do. The only examples they made were comparing Brown's schedule to Clady and Long. Maybe he faced the toughest schedule as a rookie OT last season, but I'm not buying that he faced the toughest competition in NFL history.

    I think Brown had a pretty good season considering who he faced though, and I think he'll continue to improve. I look forward to seeing his progression this season.
     
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    That's not what you asked him though. You didn't ask him to prove anything. You asked where he got the opinion that Duane faced the toughest pass rush.

    Assertation=opinion.

    I definitely agree with your post otherwise though. I do think it's safe to say that it's extremely rare that ANY man has faced off the level of talent that Duane Brown has faced over the last two years. It's uncanny.
     
  13. Wolf

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    toughest pass rush against the texans was (2002-2006) with DC at QB :smiliedance: I don't think the little dutch boy could hold off that long while DC made a decision :kingkong:
     
  14. Texecutioner

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    NO doubt he faced a really rough schedule. I just think the initial thing about the worst in history was over the top and untrue.

    Brown seemed to make pretty nice strides though. He held his own at times. Facing Pittsburgh was a nightmare for any team last season, especially in the first game of the season. The Ravens are a nightmare on the D line every season. I think he'll improve this season.
     
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    Based on the rookie play I saw from Brown last year, I've had my questions answered. Brown will be a very good LT for the Texans' for a long time. His only flaw was technique due to his short stint at LT, but everything else was there athletically. Add Alex Gibbs as a coach, and I think this kid will be playing pro-bowl level ball for 10 years.
     
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    Don't think "dogging" has the same meaning over there as it does in Britain (see here), but the title of this thread had me extremely worried for a minute.
     
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    Yeah, I can see how that might have a different connotation from a Brit slant. Were you looking/expecting pictures?? :shades: LOL
     
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    HAH!!!!!:mcnugget:
     
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    It's one thing to call it unproven, and another to call it untrue. So you have examples of it being untrue? - if not, your assertion is unproven. See how that works.

    Duane Brown faced a murderers row of DE's/OLB's for the first half of his rookie season. Don't know exactly how you would quantify that but there is no doubt it was tough.

    I haven't looked to confirm it, but I have never seen a team play 4 division games in a row like we are going to do weeks 9-13 this season. I'm not going to spend the time to figure out if that is the first time in NFL history, but I know darn sure it is an unusual rough divisional patch. There is another unproven assertion.
     
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  20. jppaul

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    I don't think we have a choice regardless of what we think. Nevertheless, I think he will be better this year, and I look forward to a big step...forward, yeah...
     

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