State of the O-line

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  1. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    I assume you mean UDFA?
     
  2. HaveMercy

    HaveMercy Passing Through

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    Bank on it. He means Undrafted Free Agents. Every year across the NFL, a few UDFA's have an impact way beyond their draft status. Why can't more of those guys be ours?
     
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  3. TheKDog

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    Really takes good evaluation ability like with Arian Foster
     
  4. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    Arian Foster went into the draft with "draft concerns" and didn't get drafted. He was rated as high as the 5th round. Which makes no difference really since he ended up a UDFA and we got him. Man would I love to be able to get another RB like him again, in any round.
     
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  5. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Yes, but rarely do UDFA's make an impact as a rookie
     
  6. TheKDog

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    Yep. I wonder if he is the type of guy our new "character focused" drafting will avoid
     
  7. Texansphan

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    There are two in particular I think that are similar to Foster going in to this draft - Trayveon Williams and Bruce Anderson.
    It will be interesting to watch their progress in the nfl.
     
  8. ArlingtonTexan

    ArlingtonTexan Moderator Staff Member

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    There is nothing new about the Texans highly if not overvaluing character...it discussed to death on this board from nearly day one...Foster was more a character, different type of dude that usually plays football, over a bad guy.
     
  9. TheKDog

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    That's right, but it seems Gaine and the new character hire are trying a new method of character evaluation
     
  10. gs27

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  11. Corrosion

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    Could this draft have fallen any better for a Texans team in dire need of CB / OT ? …. wow.

    Sitting at pick 22 with no CB's chosen and only one of the top OT's off the board.

    No Wr's off the board either … strange draft.
     
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  12. Texansballer74

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    So many defensive linemen off the board. Strange indeed
     
  13. CloakNNNdagger

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    McClain: Texans' first steps in reshaping offensive line

    John McClain , Houston Chronicle May 14, Updated: May 14, 2019 11:03 a.m.

    Right tackle Seantrel Henderson, who suffered a season-ending ankle injury in the first quarter of the first game at New England last season, has been cleared to participate in OTAs. He'll be trying to hold off the competition from rookie Max Scharping, the second-round draft choice.

    Julién Davenport, the returning starter at left tackle, enters his third season and is trying to withstand the challenge of first-round pick Tytus Howard and veteran Matt Kalil, who signed as a free agent. Kalil, who missed last season at Carolina because of a knee injury, is being brought along slowly until he's 100 percent and cleared to play.

    That's five tackles for two starting positions, including a swing tackle who can play both sides and be active on game days.

    Howard and Scharping started on both sides in college. Depending on how he develops and how Henderson performs, Scharping could get a chance to compete for a starting job at guard.

    The starting guards from last season, Senio Kelemete (left side) and Zach Fulton (right) are returning. Matinas Rankin, a third-round pick last year, played tackle and guard as a rookie. He's going to compete for a starting job at left guard.

    Greg Mancz returns as the backup center who also can play guard. He's been a reliable starter when pressed into service. He was active as the swing center/guard because he can play both positions.
    the rest of the story
     
  14. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    1. Matt Hammond‏Verified account@MattHammondShow May 13
      First-round OTs since 2014. How they graded out in their first eight games as rookies vs. how they finished the season, per @PFF_Texans:

    2. 2018
    3. -Mike McGlinchey 80.2 | 73.2
    4. -Kolton Miller 54.7 | 48.2

    5. 2017 -
    6. Garett Bowles 75.1 | 72.9
    7. Ryan Ramczyk 70.6 | 81.2

    8. 2016
    9. - Ronnie Stanley 65.8 | 74.8
    10. - Jack Conklin 79.5 | 80.6
    11. - Taylor Decker 78.7 | 81.9 2015
    12. - Ereck Flowers 61.7 | 59.3
    13. - Andrus Peat 64.1 | 67.1

    14. 2014
    15. - Greg Robinson 59.3 | 66.2
    16. - Jake Matthews 82.9 | 80.9
    17. - Taylor Lewan 71.6 | 78.1
     
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  15. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    Interesting that all improved second half until last year
     
  16. dream_team

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    I seriously get tired of this continued mantra. I don't want idiots on my team, no matter how good they are. Tyreek Hill is an amazing talent, but dude is an idiot... and idiot that found a way to ruin his career only after his 3rd season.
     
  17. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    But outside of Ramczyk, across the board, surprisingly, the 2nd half improvement for those that did score improvement...........the improvement was negligible.
     
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  18. steelbtexan

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    Hopefully better after the draft.
     
  19. cuppacoffee

    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    Devlin has his work cut out for him. Hope we nay sayers are wrong and he is up to the task.

    Beside the battle at the T positions a real battle should shape up at C.

    Martin, Fulton or ?

    Doc has expressed concern about Mantz status so there is that too.

    Expecting any surprises from the UDFA linemen pickups?

    :coffee:
     
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  20. IDEXAN

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    Yea that's a great blast from the past.
    The guy I really wanted the Texans to draft was Aldon Smith, Mizzou edge rusher, and I do remember being diappointed when we got this kid from Wisconsin instead.
    Whatever happened to Aldon Smith, I dunno but probably still in rehab someplace, but hope he gets his life together someday.
     
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