Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by knowyourfootball, Jun 12, 2006.
Nice find and thats good to hear
Great....next step: one of those "real life" stories before a game telling about an athlete who overcame the odds. Wishing BJ an awesome 2006. Go TEXANS!!!
Kubiak, Kubiak, Kubiak and a number of players eager to prove everyone wrong are the heart and soul of this season. The names Carr, Williams, Walters, Wand, AJ, Moulds, DRob, PBuc, BJ, Weaver, Ryans and a lot of others are all going to become household words in the NFL.
I believe there is a burning desire in this ball club that is going to literally explode on the scene when the season starts. The coaches are bring the troops along easy like trying to avoid the injuries of the past. Everything is so, so different this year. Its just remarkably different. Folks, I just keep saying sit back and enjoy the ride its going to be a long one.
P.S. McClain you are missing the biggest sports story of your life. I hope your vacation is an enjoyable one.
I couldn't agree with you more on that. I may be a bit of a homer on this one, but i truely believe the texans COULD make the playoffs this year. There is just so much potential on both sides of the ball. Our offense looks ripe to explode and the additions on defense should keep us from blowing second half leads.
I only disagree with one thing you said. I don't think Kubes is bringing them around easier. I think they are working harder than they ever have before....but the important thing is that they seem to be working smarter!
Last year, from the pics from offseason drills when it looked more like a daycare recess than an NFL practice to the preseason chinese fire drill it was terrifying to watch this team. It didn't take much to see that there just wasn't a method to the madness.
The SYSTEM....is in place......Mario and co. will have alot of people calling for "help" this season!
Jopp is going to be fine..............Cant waite for him to FINALY be able to take the field.
This should be the first guy out of the Tunnel on opening day.
I have to admit, my favorite part was in the comments:
That is funny!
Flanagan wasn't able to play his first three yrs of football due to injuries. And look how he turned out to be!! 　　Ummm let see......... Joppru wasn't able to play his first, second, third yr....... It's just my gut feeling tells me that Joppru will be the biggest surprise player for Texans this year. At least I hope so as he went through a lot.
The word easy is in reference to how they are not practicing. We are being physical, but a smart physical. We are trying to avoid abusing the body like Capers did. Yes, we are intense mentally, but we are being careful of the body. You can see the smiles on the guys faces. They are loving it. I think they feel like they are being respected.
I don't think are players were not in shape the last several years physically, but rather mentally was the problem. When they came to camp Caper's and his staff were drill instructors who ran the team into the ground physically. They needed to work on the mental aspect of the game not the physical aspect of the game. We lost so many players during training camp and during the season probably as the result of what was done preseason and during the season. The BODY CAN ONLY TAKE SO MUCH. The 4th QTR collapses are no surprise when you look at what the coaching staff was doing.
I just hope that Joppru stays healthy. We only know what the previous management said about his potential when drafted. A lot remains to be seen. My fingers are crossed.
Really? Other than you stating this, where are the reports on how tough physically Capers was and how much easier Kubiak is being? Reports from the OTA's and mini-camps have been the tempo is up if anything this year. From having attended many of the training camp sessions in years past, I would say Capers was highly scripted but not that he was rough on the players at all--there was a great deal of walking and standing around. You seem to have drawn your conclusion about Capers from not understanding that there are injuries at every training camp in the NFL. From the pictures of the OTA's, it looks like Kubiak was running the fine line on getting fined for exceeding the no contact rules. In fact the DL coach caught himself just short of talking about having the players hit each other harder at one point.
FYI--the strength and conditioning coach is still Dan Riley.
You need to perhaps read a few of the articles that have come out and the players comments about camp Capers. He ground his players into the ground and that's a known fact. He believed in strenuous two day practices in the Houston sun and hummidity. Sorry, but if you will do a little research you will find what I'm saying is true. He was a throw back to the Bear and his days in Texas. That's why he took the one day off and took his team to the movies. There were also serious questions about his pregame practices. If you can not see the differences between the training practices of these two coaches - well then that's your problem.
I'm sorry, but I find it refreshing that Kubiak has changed everything with respect to this ball club including the training practices. We have a team going places this year and it is a refreshing thought. Most of our players are self motivated people who come into camp very fit. You look at people like Mario, Carr, AJ, Moulds, BJ and others and they don't need physical training they need to know how to execute - what a horrible word.
I will give an excellent example, but I can't prove it. Arron Glenn was not healthy the last 3 years he was with the Texans, but he has been healthy in Dallas. Why, because Parcells treats practices differently than Capers.
Kubiak and company expect their players to be adults and come in in shape. They aren't going to fool around with people who are not. They want to spend their time teaching the players how to play the game. The players of today are so much bigger and stronger than before and their bodies are already on the edge of breakdown from all the training they do. The season is long and requires the players and the coaches to use a lot of intelligence in getting physically through the season. If you totally wear people out before the start of the season or the game you are going to find it difficult to be at your best when games are being played. You have a tendency to tire in the 4th quarter. Does that ring a bell?
Your saying it is a known fact is the opposite of proof or an example but thanks for playing. Of course an easy example to the contrary would be TJ's comments on how hard they wanted him going in the OTA's this year--see that is an example. By the way, Kubiak is holding two a days in the Houston sun and humidity as well--in fact he is apparently planning on mostly doing them during the day rather than the evening practices run by Capers.
Dude you are in another freakin state and haven't been to a single training event live. Get a grip.
You're right--that is a good example--of you assuming something completely unknowable is proof of your preconceived theory.
PS--Aaron Glenn was with the Texans 3 years. In 2002 he didn't miss a game. In 2003 he left game 4 and missed games 5 and 6 and then left game 15. There was zero evidence of his hammy problems being training camp related. In 2004 he again started every game. In 2005 Glenn was in and out of the line up starting a total of 7 games. But I am sure reduced playing time had nothing to do with it and it all had to do with teddy bear Parcells.
My thoughts are that Capers might have been a little to easy on his players at the most crucial times. Either that, or whatever he was saying to them really didn't sink in. It all has to do with respect and I don't think he ever recieved it. The players liked him, but respect is what guys gravitate to. There were plenty of times last year when Capers should have let a player have it on the sidelines, but every time the poor guy looked just as lost as the perp. I know the game has changed alot over the years, but sometimes an old fasion tounge lashin is prudent.
I forgot to mention how excited I am for Joppru. The guy has really kept his chin up through all of this. His work etthic is showing that he is still extremly motivated and is ready to prove himself once and for all.
Well I suggest you do a little research on your own. In fact I laugh because I was accussed of not having sources on the infamous Justice article as well and low and behold what I said was true. I don't throw these comments around lightly and I stick by my guns. All I will say is if you do as much reading as I do from various sources, you might be surprised about some of the practices. Anyway, I will repeat I'm looking forward to a fantastic year and it will be because of the new coaching staff. Again, what a refreshing change from the last few years. Enjoy it because its going to be fun.
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