Sounds like even the OL players know this could be it. . .

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  1. Texans Pride

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    From this mornings Houston Chronicle:

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3222418


    "If they want to pull me out and put somebody in or pull (center) Steve (McKinney) out and put somebody in, there's nothing we can do," Wand said.

    Wand, who is entering his third season, is adjusting to the guard role for the first time.

    The coaches have not told either player he will be shifting roles when the season starts. Pitts said he expects to find out before the season opener.

    "If it doesn't (improve) there'll be a whole new line in there," Pitts said. "I promise you. The whole warming-up phase is a wrap. It's in the books. It's time to put up or shut up."



    I'm not so sure this line is going to be fine. We all expected to know where everyone was going to be around training camp . . . Now Pitts is even saying that he might not know until the season opener. I'd like to know sooner than that. It seems, IMO, that the only thing the coaches are sure about regarding this line, is that things need to change. This doesn't make me feel very comfortable. It also sounds like the coaches have given these guys their warning, perform or you are out of here!
     
  2. The Preacher

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    Sounds like these guys are sick of hearing the boo-birds. I can't wait to see how fired up they will be. Just a hunch but I expect major improvement. Remember these guys really just started playing together and are extremely young, especially Wand and Pitts.
     
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    I will tell you right now that there is nothing wrong with Coaches telling players "they need to put up or shut up." This sounds like it is at the very least making an impression on the line. I feel very comfortable with the way the coaching staff is handling the situation. Like it or not we can not get additional linemen that are of a higher quality. They just are not availible. Casserly understands this and I am very pleased that we are not over paying for talent simular to what we have. The answer is to build the line in the Draft or aquire probowl talent from FA. Well the FA talent is not there and the draft talent would not have been an upgrade so this is what we have. I can tell you that it will be allright we will be improved over last year.


    11-5 or 12-4

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  4. Vambo, the Marble Eye

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    You're going to Buffalo?
     
  6. Lucky

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    Is Wand just using McKinney's name as an example? Or is Washington getting a shot at the starting Center gig? Interesting.

    As far as the "time to put up or shut up" comment by Pitts...he's right. That goes for a lot of players as well as coaches. The Texans need to feel that urgency because it's there.
     
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    Do not forget about the OL guy (Drew something or another) we drafted from Arizona or Arizona St. with our 5th pick in this past draft. Supposedly he could make a push at LG if Wand gets all whinney and starts playing poorly. Pitts will the starting gig @ LT and I beleive Washinton should start @ LG. And just to keep the defense on their toes I think there should be a play or two a game where Steve lines up @ LG and Washington goes C. texanpride
     
  8. Vambo, the Marble Eye

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    Yep... I have arranged a "business trip" to our office in Toronto during the week.

    I will see the first snap of the season. Thanks for asking.

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    Did anyone else see the report on FSN Houston when the Texans took BP at Minute Maid Park? Chester Pitts introduced himself as the left tackle. Seems like he has some idea of what's going to happen.
     
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    Vambo, be sure to eat some wings, and have fun. Go Texans texanpride
     
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    I assume Wand can read more than just writing on the wall. Say...the news paper of something?
     
  12. nunusguy

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    Yea, its looking like the recent practice sessions where Wand and Pitts were swapping positions were more than just playful experimentations.
    Could be a case of, as Mr. Dyland would say, "The Times, They are A-Changin" regarding the OLine.
     
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    I agree. I think that they are trying to coach what they have and motivate them accordingly. This is a smart move, and these guys should be playing as if their lives depend on it!!!!
     
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    Sounds like a football team to me. This is what they do when they are in the off-season. Play well or get replaced. That is how it works from high school to the pros.
     
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    If they put the best 5 guys on the field for the season, Mckinney just shouldn't be there. Pitts and Wade seem like the only two guys that have a spot for sure. Wiegert probably will keep his job at RG. I think that the other two spots are going to be decided on sometime near the end of pre-season.
     
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    i dont care who they put in as long as Carr can stay on his feet for a whole game.
     
  17. bigtex77

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    I have a simple solution to the LT problem, and we can kill two birds w/one stone. Whether Pitts or Wand lines up at LT during practice, have Peek line up at end, that way he gets plenty of reps and they will be ready for any DE they face during the season, or at least conditioned from chasing him around. :)

    Maybe not, but it worked in theory! LOL
     
  18. Lucky

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    Wand back at LT for mini camp.

    Link

    Hey, whatever. Just make it work, Dom.
     
  19. infantrycak

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    I understand folks looking at 2003 and saying switch back to Pitts at LT since he only gave up 5.75 sacks, but look at those guys. Pitts made that work with a lot of anticipation (false starts) and tenacity (holds). Wand had a cleaner 1st year by far penalty wise and looks like a LT--long torso and arms. His footwork is good--if his time on the inside will improve his hand work he should step up just fine without sacrificing all the penalties and Pitts should settle into his role as the run blocking mauler. Personally, I am more worried, not about the quality, but durability of RG and the pressure in the middle from the one who will remain nameless.
     
  20. vtech9

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    this brings another idea to mind...I was looking over the roster and checking out the profiles of some of the rookies and I came across #79 Alfred Malone DE. He is 6' 5" 308 LBS, and as a senior in high school, he played tight end and fullback as well, gaining 550 rushing yards with three TDs. I don't know what kind of speed he has, but in our Jumbo package, he could be our secret weapon at TE or our version of the fridge playing FB.

    Hey, it's the offseason, and I'm bored.
     

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