So what does Mario have to do this year......

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  1. Mr teX

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    statwise, to stave off you calling him the "b" word? I only ask b/c i happened to pop on Davies & dukes this morning & they were sort of talking about it.

    Maybe you look at it differently, not so much what Mario has to do statwise, but what does the defensive unit/line have to accomplish for you to feel Mario is at least becoming the force you thought he could be?
     
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    All he needs to do is stay healthy and find consistency from game to game. He will have some games where he appears to be shut out and others where he rag dolls a couple of linemen a game like in the Giants game.

    In reality the B word should not really ever be used on any player until after their 3rd year regardless of the player or the team etc. It just takes that long for most players to adjust to the pro game.
     
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    For me, it's not just what Mario does. I want him to contribute on a dominating D-line helping the defense pick up where it left off from the last half of the season. If he improves the way I hope, offenses will have to pay more attention to him allowing others on the defense to make plays. I really don't think we will have anything to worry about with Mario, though:mario3:
     
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    Two words...win games.
     
  5. The1ApplePie

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    Has to put up Freeny or Peppers like numbers, simple as that.
     
  6. HuttoKarl

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    I don't want to get wrapped up in calling him a success or failure based on a stat line. I would like to see him be a disruptive force, whether it's stuffing RB's in the backfield, tossing O-Linemen around and getting some sacks here and there.

    4.5 isn't enough, by any means. I'd like to see him double that while being disruptive every Sunday.
     
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    I fully expect him to have 10+ sacks this year, and at least 2-4 FFs

    Thats barely 1 every other game.

    I know, I know, people are already saying he'll be double teamed. Franky, I don't care. Everyone knows Peppers is a beast, everyone knows Freeney is a beast, everyone knows Strahan, etc, etc and they still produce. With a new pass rushing DT in Okoye, a rejuvinated TJ and the surprising Maddox in the middle, I expect MW should easily surpass 10 sacks this season

    If he doesn't, I will be the first to be disapointed. The first overall pick in the draft, after a full year of NFL experience, healthy and hungry, should not be given any more "cushion" time. As Texans fans, we have learned way too much patience. Carr is the perfect example. We need to expect our players to perform up to the level they were predicted to perform at.
     
  8. The1ApplePie

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    If your taken 1st overall, and you are just a solid contributer, you're a bust.

    Hopefully he can be a solid run stopper.
     
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    Peppers had 7 sacks the year the Panthers made a SB run and Freeney had 5.5 sacks in the year they won the SB. These were the worst sack totals of each of their respective careers.

    We need a well rounded unit on defense and Mario will be the anchor for the first tier of that defense.
     
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    Damn your facts and logic!!!! :doot:
     
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    I meant the usual 12-15 sacks a year numbers.
     
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    Freeney and the entire Colts defense was HORRIBLe all year. The only reason they even made it into the playoffs was because of their offense.

    Once in the playoffs, Freeney resumed his natural pass rushing self. He was the sack leader for the postseason.

    The Colts made it to the playoffs in spite of Freeney, not because of him.

    As for Peppers, well, I can't really explain that one. Rucker benefited I guess, as he had something like 10-15 sacks that season
     
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    Be a difference maker.

    Make the defense better.

    I would love to see a ton of sacks, but he doesn't have to have that to make a difference out there.
     
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    Yes, Freeney, Peppers and Mario are all horrible and make no one around them better. :rolleyes:
     
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    I think if he can get us 1200 yds. and 8 td's that would be a great start ....
     
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    I was at last nights practice and the team wasn't in pads but I dunno if Mario really needs pads ? The guy is an awesome physcial physique ! And now that he's down to 'bout 280 lbs. he really looks almost as much like a basketball player as he does a football player. But couple that with his superior athleticism (can't help but wonder what the Mario-Lite 40 time and vertical elevation would be ?), and "Super Mario" says it all. But maybe the new D coachs and getting his first NFL year behind him will give him the maturity to take advantage of his prodigous physical skills.
    BTW, Mario signed autographs after practice and he stayed forever and I think just about everyone got something signed and there was a ton of people wanting a signature. But the big guy showed a lot of patience, and dare I say maturity ?
     
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    20 or so players picked after him had better years than he did....so, he needs to simply play better...and outplay the guys picked after him....so he has a TALL order. Being the first overall pick in a DEEP draft carries a burden.
     
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    They both average 10-11 sacks a year, not 12-15. Start with unreasonable expectations and you will end up disappointed.
     
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    Now we are nitpicking numbers to further the excuses for MW

    He was picked 1st. Therefore I expect him to perform better than every other player in the draft.

    I won't be disapointed if he plays at or around the level of others in the draft, but a repeat of last year will surely be a failure
     
  20. Second Honeymoon

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    show some heart
    show a mean streak
    show more quickness
    show better technique
    show the ability to make more plays
    show the ability to put Peyton and all the other QBs on their arse

    in other words, he needs to show all the things that he didn't really show last year
     

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