Scouts Inc: Texans don't Fit 3-4

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  1. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    LZ put this on twitter...reposting

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/20157/scouts-inc-texans-defenders-dont-fit-3-4

     
  2. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    Call me crazy, but I'll take 3-4 guru Wade Phillips' opinion over Scouts Inc.

    Also, to be clear - LZ disagrees with Scouts Inc. on this, as do several other informed guys.
     
  3. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    I'm not debating it, just throwing out the story. I do agree with the article though...as does Mario Williams and some players already...that they have certain players that fit the 4-3 much better. You can always switch, I just don't think it is a plug in the pieces easy thing to do. Wade's also coached a 4-3 so there is no guarantee he is going for broke with the 3-4
     
  4. BetaV1

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    Judging from the past few seasons, the Texans don't fit the 4-3...
     
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  5. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    The players are just whining. It's what players do. They'll all fall in line. Kubiak has confirmed that Wade will in fact be changing the team to a 3-4.
     
  6. ChampionTexan

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    For what it's worth, Matt Williamson also referred to the Packers switch to a 3-4 prior to the 2009 season "A mistake", and wasn't excited about it

    LINK

    Seems to have worked out pretty well for them.

    2008 Defense ranked 20th in yardage and 22nd in points allowed
    2009 Defense ranked 2nd in yardage and 7th in points allowed
    2010 Defense ranked 5th in yardage and 2nd in points allowed
     
  7. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    Yup, especially when there are glaring errors in the analysis. "Heavier inside linebackers" - good job on that one since DeMeco is as big as any 3-4 LB out there and many are substantially lighter.

    I do think it is funny to give any credit to this analysis which describes Mario as an elite franchise defensive player you should decide schemes on and yet some folks around here act like he is a bust or just another DE.
     
  8. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    Funny thing about that, the Packers are now the only 3-4 defense in the NFC North. The Texans will now be the only 3-4 defense in the AFC South.
     


  9. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

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    I think it is funny that people find his analysis laughable. Afterall, they are so loaded with top D players. In fact Marcus Coleman just had a blog piece about how the Bills and Charges had a lot more talent than the Texans when Wade took over. LZ posted it too. I'll post it when home
     
  10. dalemurphy

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    Yeah, I saw this earlier and thought it pretty silly. Perhaps it won't work but his analysis that:

    we have no "heavier LBs", not realizing Cushing weighs 260lbs... that Mario will struggle (not realizing what Wade did with guys like Bruce Smith and Patrick Kerney)... but that Amobi Okoye may work out pretty well at NT.

    Umm, yeah, I'm not sure this guy spent too much time on his research.
     
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  11. Dishman

    Dishman Miss Ya Blue

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    Has there ever been an NFL team switch from a 4-3 to 3-4 defense and make the playoffs the following year?
     
  12. dalemurphy

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    I don't take issue with him suggesting the defense will struggle, it's his explainations to why that are laughable.
     
  13. MojoX

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    Looking forward to your expressed opinion, but having less talent seems to imply you have little invested in any system. I don't find this guys analysis laughable as much as I find Phillips' analysis more credible.

    Besides, someone already pointed out how wrong this guy was about GreenBay about whom he said the same thing.
     
  14. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    Maybe he got his info from Mel Kiper...
     
  15. ChampionTexan

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    So what exactly would your definition of "debating it" be?
     
  16. The1ApplePie

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    Only one I agree with is Cush, I see him going inside.

    Okoye as a NT had me laughing. Dude get's pushed back into the backers on a regular basis in the 4-3, no way he goes into the middle of a 3-4.

    I would imagine that he gets traded before draft.
     
  17. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    Jesus H. Pass Rushing Christ, what are they going to do in a 3-4, get worse? Our defense will be much better under Wade. We'll have to wait to see if that translates into playoffs tough.
     
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  18. Jackie Chiles

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    Only if we're lucky.
     
  19. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

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    Packers did it in '09.
     
  20. Dishman

    Dishman Miss Ya Blue

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    Then let's set the bar high and hope the coaching staff finds a way to make it happen.
     

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