Scouts Inc Breaks down Jets/Texans matchup

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  1. gtexan02

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    From ESPN Insider:
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/scouting?gameId=290913034

    Pretty good read for 2-10 as well. Not too detailed, but good points all around. Basically states that the Jets are going to try and keep the game slow and in control for their rook QB, while the Texans are going to try and spread the ball around and get it to their playmakers. Makes a good point about the strength of the Jets NT, which they hope will result in flushing Schaub out of the pocket (where he doesn't make great decisions). Seems to like our chances for a big ST play at some point.
    Final score prediction is 20-24 Texans
     
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    Here is the rest of it if you don't have insider:

     
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    b0ng Ooops

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    Is it sad that I dread rookies and terrible QB's? They shred us almost as bad as Manning does on his annual visit.
     
  4. TEXANS84

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    This part of the story really scares me. Myers can look like he's on roller skates if he's against a dominant defensive tackle. Vonta will have his hands full as the cleanup man this weekend.
     
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    Myers is what I'm really worried about as well. Kris Jenkins is one big dude. We'll see how it goes.
     
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    Kris Jenkins? The same Jenkins from the Panthers that we beat two years ago? If so, then I think we won't have a problem...
     
  7. b0ng

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    He has performed significantly better in the 3-4.
     
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    I don't think myers was our starting C ???
     


  9. K.Rhodes25

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    No not the same Kris Jenkins, then he was unmotivated and fat. When he got traded to the Jets he was revived, he lost a bunch of weight and was motivated again.
    He has been nothing short of dominant as a NYJ. He demands triple/double teams all game, if you single man him your QB will get hit. He'll toss any linemen 1 on 1 like a rag doll.....

    He was getting mentions for DPOY last season until he got injured late against the Titans.
     
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    When did he play in a 3-4? I thought the Jets switched defensive schemes this offseason
     
  11. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    um, Kris is a 3 time All-Pro and has been to 4 Pro Bowls in 7 seasons. He had a shoulder injury in 2004 and went on injured reserve and then he tore his ACL in 2005. You guys should not make stuff up around people who know the league well. You end up losing credibility.
     
  12. dalemurphy

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    He had a couple excellent seasons in Carolina then he got lazy. He's had injuries and was especially poor his last season or two in Carolina. Last season, he played really well sometimes and would sometimes inexplicably disappear. That's what I saw from him.

    As a Texan fan, I'm very worried about the guy blowing our line up all game line. However, I'm hopeful he'll sleepwalk through it.
     
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    I wasn't making stuff up? His last years with the Panthers he got very unhappy and wasn't playing like hes capable of playing. Back in the years of like 2003 he was considered the best DT in football.
    When he came to the Jets he got motivated again, he hated Carolina for some reason. Loves NY. He was over 400 pounds his last years there, now weighs 360 pounds. Sounds like a lot but he looks good for 360 pounds, he moves around very well as he can pass rush and play the run at a elite level. I'm interested to see his impact this year, last year he played in a new system to him. He was at NT and was not moved around. This year hes in a 1 gap system something hes used to, also Rex wants to move him around like throwing him at DE some times, or moving him to LB on some plays.
     
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    He disappeared after the Titans game last season, he injured his back or something. He said that it was because he was using new muscle groups at NT something he never did before. He loves the new defense and feels hes got another 6 years left in him. He was as good as any interior DL in football last year, for a Jets fan who had to put up with Dewayne Robertson in the middle it was a god send to have Kris Jenkins. We really got a steal with that trade. I'm hoping we get a similar steal with Lito Sheppard.
     
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    Nope... It was that "Great American" Steve McKinney. :breakdance:
     
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    Jets are gonna run a 3-4 this year, and ran that last year.
     
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    ah, thanks I guess the vilma trade makes sense
     
  18. Vinny

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    tearing your ACL and having surgery on your shoulder and going on IR two years in a row are legit reasons Kris didn't have 6 Pro Bowls in 7 seasons instead of "only" 4. You made it sound like he wasn't much of a player till he became a Jet, and that just isn't accurate.
     
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    What I said was his last years with the Panthers wasn't good, he said how he hated it there and felt like just retiring. I wasn't making it seem like he did nothing with the Panthers, I was stating that last year he wasn't the same as the time you guys played him when he was fat and out of shape and didn't care anymore. Its a fact that when he came to the Jets he lost a bunch of weight and got remotivated into the game. He wasn't playing to his capability during his final year in Carolina.
    And it wasn't just injuries, he was going through some problems then. But hes happy now, got married and is focused to football again. He plays with a lot of pride, he plays for his family now.
     
  20. Hooston Texan

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    The Jest have been running the 3-4 for three years. Mangini, like every other leaf from the Parcells/Belicheat tree, immediately installed the 3-4 upon his hire in 2006 and traded away guys like DE John Abraham (and later, Vilma) who didn't fit the new scheme.

    Jenkins was an excellent 4-3 DT until he and the Panthers grew out of love with each other. The Jets believed he could convert to a 3-4 NT (hence the trade), but I think even they were surprised at how well he played until he got hurt late in the year. In my opinion, Jenkins had far more to do with the Jets' great start last year than their other, far-more-hyped 2008 acquisition.
     

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