Schaub: the deer in the headlights

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  1. panamamyers

    panamamyers Veteran

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    We saw it last year game after game.
    I tried to explain it away. I tried to lie to myself and convince myself that Schaub would be able to step up and deliver in the clutch.

    He just folds up like a cheap suit though.

    The intentional grounding was the worst. He got the happy feet after a second or two when there was absolutely no one around him providing pressure. I was glad that they called it intentional grounding. He had zero reason to throw that ball.
    The pass to Dreesen that tipped off his hands right before the int....wayyyy too high. There was a pass to Andre to start that last drive that should have been picked by Jammer. There was the pass right before the half that should have been a pick six by their linebacker. The int was not a well thrown ball, too far out in front of him. So many high balls to a wide open Andre Johnson that's standing still 20 yards away from Schaub. The pass to Dreesen, before the hurry up qb sneak that failed, that was too low or Dreesen could have stayed on his feet and got the first down.

    It's excruciating to watch a qb that has the heart and determination like Phillip Rivers, then watch Schaub fold up like a tent.
     
  2. jaayteetx

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    Gotta agree with ya, A LOT off his passes have been off this year. But its been a collective team effort come win or lose this year, thats for sure.
     
  3. El Tejano

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    Dude, I can't say that Schaub isn't clutch. Two of our wins are purely on his ability to get us in the endzone in pressure situations. If not for Andre's bad play, Schaub may have very well pulled off yet another 4th quarter game winner.
     
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    Yeah, that AJ play was pretty much a sure TD, as he would have had just one guy to beat (the Charger that intercepted it). It would have been another 4th quarter comeback. Sucks.
     
  5. MightyTExan

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    Schaub pretty much sucks this season. Looks to me like it's a shoulder injury. He's side-arming everything.
     
  6. Hardcore Texan

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    The intentional ground penalty was a HORRIBLE call. He had a TE nearby, he just had another bad throw. Go back and watch that play again. Even the charger loving Dan Fouts said it was a bad call.

    He was not that accurate yesterday, that much of the OP I'll agree with. He has been clutch. Schaub is not the problem with this team. Although I agree he hasn't been consistent enough this season. If you don't think Schaub has heart and determination, I don't know what games you've been watchin'.
     
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    I agree, he hasn't been consistent and not as sharp as he can be, he's still had some good games and won some in the clutch. I agree with you though, I am starting to think there is something physical going on with him. (I think it was eriadoc that said this in another thread, and it's what I have been thinking).
     
  8. GuerillaBlack

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    This. All you had to do was watch Schaub prepare to get on the field on the last drive. He looked ready. Then, watch his expressions when AJ muffed the pass. He was pretty pissed.
     
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    Yep. People can argue up and down about Schaub this and that, but the guy has proven his heart and determination many times over, I can't believe someone would even question that.
     
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    :facepalm: Brakos!
     
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    To be honest with you I haven't noticed any difference between his passes this year and those of last year and before. Schaub throws really funky balls at times (especially in the first quarter before he's really gotten into a rhythm)...that's just who he is.
     
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    C'mon, you read this title and thought of that too, admit it.
     
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    Yeah, he has thrown a few squibble balls at times. That being said, the guy is better when its crunch time.
     
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    It's almost as if we are playing without a quarterback.
    EVERY pass is high and wide. Easy pass to Casey for a td. He airmails it too high and too fast.
    Why did he throw the ball to Andre on that screen and even make it catchable? Luckily Andre was smart enough to drop it. That was a brainfart to the nth degree for Schaub, and it's not all that surprising to me any more.

    The end jumps offside, gotta free play and he just throws it out of bounds....

    I can't think of another starting qb in the league that I wouldn't take over Schaub.

    We have to protect him and limit the plays so much. It's like we're playing a 3rd string rookie out there.
     
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    would be nice if schaub could guide this team to a comfortable lead.
     
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    Schaub choked it away again.
    Had ALL the momentum and then he overthrows a wide open Andre and drops a shotgun snap.
    He just falls to pieces out there.
    You could throw Matt Turk out there and he could have completed that pass to a wide open Andre on the sideline that last drive.
    Horrible for a starting b in the NFL to blow that drive like that.
     
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    Matt Turk at QB eh? Way to make a strong, well reasoned out post. :)
     
  19. panamamyers

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    Schaub with another brain freeze.
    No WAY he gets a field goal unit out there.
    That was third down there guy.....

    This guy has no situational awareness at all...
     
  20. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I think that it's possible that one of the Schaub's biggest problems is that often he's only clutch. Given time he seems to get lost out there and he throws some of the weakest most off-target passes when he's given all day to pick a target.

    Frankly I think Schaub is adequate but I also believe that the next head coach we get will need to start searching for Schaub's successor. I think we're better off than a number of teams but we're fooling ourselves if we don't think the QB position can be upgraded. Schaub's poor play this season has been the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. That's not entirely true. Thunderkyss talks about it but it's mixed in with all that other stuff so nobody really engages him much about it. It's true though. Schaub has been pretty bad this year punctuated with stretches where he's lights out. His receivers have failed him repeatedly too which doesn't help.

    Still, the position can be upgraded. Least of our worries at the moment though.
     

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