Schaub, Gannon on idea of 'staying healthy'

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  1. Tailgate

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/2437/schaub-gannon-on-idea-of-staying-healthy


    Not sure I totally agree with Gannon's response. Too many of Schaubs injuries were the result of an illegal hit. Theres not a whole lot you can do to prevent that.
     
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    The hits that hurt Schaub, with one exception, were taken by defensive linemen. Exotic pass-rush schemes were not involved in Haynesworth plopping on him, Antwuan Odom rolling over his shoulder on an otherwise- routine sack and Jared Allen's knee shots.

    The one shot that came from a non-DL was the chin shot by DB Drayton Florence which came after Schaub threw a pick. It had nothing to do with Schaub not being aware of the pass rush and had everything to do with Florence trying to knock him out with a helmet-to-chinstrap shot.

    So, if Gannon is insinuating that Schaub's injuries were the result of him failing to understand the pass rush/coverage scheme he was facing, Gannon needs to watch a little tape. That's not to say that Schaub shouldn't emulate the way guys like Manning, Brady and (especially) Favre avoid hits right after throwing the ball.
     
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    I doubt a national media guy like Gannon follows Schaub as closely as the average poster on here but I think his advice would certainly help Schaub stay healthy.

    EX: Odom came on the blindside, maybe audibling out of the current play to have a hot read or sending a TE/RB over to chip on the backside would've prevented the shoulder injury from happening?
     
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    Gannon definitely makes sense. But if those illegal hits didnt happen, would we even be having this discussion?
     
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    All I wanna see is an OL lay out an offender if Schaub gets cheap shotted
     
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    I totally agree with Gannon, and these guys also show how there are different approaches to the same end.

    Favre seems to do it with pure awareness as if he is hovering over the field and watching himself. He has strong sensory perception of what is happening around him and the ability to respond to what's happening around him with movement.

    Manning seems more inclined toward the awareness of what the defense is planning and also just being really fast due to his football IQ and knowing what the defense is doing and where his guys will be and what his options are down the list.

    For Schaub, it's a matter of identifying the need to develop this ability, finding what will work best for him, and honing it down to an instinct through practice and experience. But, right now, it sounds like he still hasn't really reached that first step of identifying the need because I think when you really identify the need you have a more thought out and researched answer to this question.
     
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    I'm going with Tailgate's response.... the hits that took Schaub out, were the illegal kind. & Gannon's response kinda makes me believe he's telling Schaub to "look" at the pass rush, and that's a no-no for me.

    But truly, I think he's got the same problem I had seen with Chris Brown. When you're out on the field, you've got to keep your head on a swivel. Chris Brown, and Schaub don't even see these hits coming, so the shock to the body is much greater than if they had the opportunity to brace, or roll with the hit.

    I don't care if the whistle's blown, you've got to know what's going on around you.
     
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    Sorry, ESPN commercial
     
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    All you have to do is wait for a Jags game ! WAIT, they lost Henderson to free agency, didn't they ? Too lazy to look it up....That guy is a BEAST and a cheap shot artist to boot !
     
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    All Schaub needs to do if he wants to stay healthy is watch film of David Carr. Carr is a master of anticipating a hit and getting out of there before it happens (even if it isn't really going to happen).
     
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    There's nothing to "learn" about staying healthy. The only way you stay healthy in football is to avoid getting hit, and that doesn't happen. Gannon's comments have merit, but don't necessarily apply to Schaub so far.
     
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    I've said it before, I will be shocked if Schaub doesn't play 16. I don't see his injuries as a suggestion that he's fragile. Unlucky? Maybe. However, I do think some guys are just more graceful with their bodies and he seem more stiff to me. And yes, some guys do have that vision, that sense. Rothlisberger has it. Where theres a guy behind you and you just know. It's not teachable though. I don't believe it is anyway. I think you can learn how to get out of harms way and you can learn how to get rid of the ball. You can have a clock. But you can allso run the ball well and not have teams tee off on you.
     
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    just be like David carr tuck into a ball and fall down LOL

    i dont think that guy has never been injured
     
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    Arh, peeking at the chronicles of Dr. Fetal for help? :)
     
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    Rich Gannon on Kubiak/Schaub...

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ers'-Cable-already-off-to-bad-start?GT1=39002
     
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    thanks - merged. ;)
     
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    Staying healthy for the QBs mentioned have gone hand in hand with solid pass rush protection...........resulting in markedly less exposure to any hits, let alone cheap shots.
     
  20. Hooston Texan

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    [In response to the Adam Schein article just posted here]

    Man, you know it is time to get the season started when interviews are being dissected to this degree. Schein lists "The Kubiak/Schaub Relationship" as one of his nine biggest "unsolved mysteries" in the column. On a day that Schaub gave a ton of interviews (as part of the Gatorade deal he's doing), one answer to one question is now being used to insinuate that he and Kubiak are somehow not on the same page. I'm sure that is news to Kubes, Schaub and just about everyone else at the corner of Kirby & Main. And does anybody really think that Schaub believes he can stay upright if he lets the league's defensive linemen hit him every time he drops back?

    Whether Schaub understands what he needs to do to avoid injury will be borne out on the field, not in a radio interview. Thank goodness the silly season is almost over and we can go back to worrying about how our team plays and not how they interview.
     

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