Salary Cap Staus

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  1. TexanBacker93

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    There are going to be some decisions made before the start of the 2006 season.

    Eric Brown $2.9 - Not starting anymore.
    Jay Foreman $3.1 - Might have lost his spot too.
    Aaron Glenn $5.4 - better corners are cut with similar contracts.
    Steve McKinney $4.6 - Can have more time to do the Inside Skinny with...
    Gary Walker - $4.8 - Losing steps fast. Will be out by 2006.

    Depending on how and where the draft goes this year and the list of potential draftees next year I wouldn't be surprised if some or all of the players either renegotiate or become victims to the salary cap axman.

    You have to consider that Carr, DD, Wong, Peek, Pitts, and Sharper are all free agents after this next season. I don't know if they are UFA or RFA. I'm sure someone does, though. These players are more important to the long term success than the ones listed above.
     
  2. Grid

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    is Keith also known as aj?

    and wow.. we are 15 million under the cap? neato... Lamont Jordan!!!!!
     
  3. Thats not very much when you consider about $5million is going to be for the rookies, another 5-6 to re-sign some of our players, that leaves about $5 million for Free Agency. That's not a lot fellas.
     
  4. dalemurphy

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    I certainly hope that we don't spend $5million to resign players. I wouldn't want Payne for more than $2 million per year... and, other than a few tenders to our RFAs, I don't want anyone else over the Vet. minimum... I would like to see continued fiscal responsibility and possibly no major FA signings. Instead, I'd like to see us $5-$8 million under the cap. Then, I'd like that room used to restructure contracts. We could front end some of the bigger contracts like Sharper and Carr in order to save some money in the coming years. That is the strategy that Phillie used so successfully in order to sign McNabb to a huge contract and also to make room for T.O.
     
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    CC said he isn't going to make any major FA signings.
     
  6. Lucky

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    Well I think the vet minimum will be $656K next year. You've got theses guys as FA's:

    Jason Anderson RB ERFA
    JJ Moses WR ERFA
    Bryan Pittman LS ERFA
    Jarrod Baxter RB RFA
    Milford Brown OG RFA
    Troy Evans LB RFA
    Demarcus Faggins CB RFA
    Matt Murphy TE RFA
    Jonathan Wells RB RFA
    Tony Banks QB UFA
    Jason Bell CB UFA
    Marcus Bell LB UFA
    Corey Bradford WR UFA
    Junior Ioane DT UFA
    Marlon McCree FS UFA
    Moran Norris FB UFA
    Seth Payne DT UFA
    DaShon Polk LB UFA
    Corey Sears DE UFA
    Jason Simmons CB UFA
    Marcus Spears OT UFA
    Kenny Wright CB UFA

    Obviously, the Texans won't tender all of these guys. But, I can see the Texans wanting to bring back at least 8-10 of these guys, that's $5-$6 million right there. And like you said, Payne will want more than the minimum (as will Banks & Faggins).

    Sharper is in the last year of his contract. So unless he signs an extension, there's no possibility of "front loading" his contract. Carr's getting a big roster bonus soon ($5 million?). If the Texans dump McKinney, Wiegart, Eric Brown, & Jay Foreman before the '06 season they'll be in great cap shape.
     
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    It varies by experience. Here are the numbers for 2004--I think they went up about $5k between 2003-2004 so these should be close for 2005.

    Rookies $230,000
    Second-year players $305,000
    Third-year $380,000
    Fourth- through sixth-year $455,000
    Seventh- through ninth-year $660,000
    10 or more years $760,000

    There is also a cap exception for 10+ year vets--if they are signed to a one year contract then they get paid according to the chart above but only count on the cap as a 4th-6th player.
     
  8. Lucky

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    Right. Here are the '05 numbers from the CBA extension for '05:

    Rookies - $230K
    Players with 1 credited season - $305K
    Players with 2 credited seasons - $380K
    Players with 3 credited seasons - $455K
    4-6 credited seasons - $540K
    7-9 credited seasons - $665K
    10+ credited seasons - $765K

    If I read this correctly, only $455K will count against the cap for the players with 4 seasons or higher experience.

     


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    RFAs already count against the cap, I believe... Of the UFAs, I wouldn't want more than 2 or 3 of those- and only for near the minimum... Regarding Sharper, they could resign him for, say, 4 years and 18 million- give him a good bonus and configure the contract so that this year (the first of four) is a high cap number, therefore reducing the cap costs for the next three seasons.
     
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    If they've been tendered, yes. But looking at Keith's capsheet, he hasn't taken those numbers into account as of yet.
     
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    Ouch:

    Walker, Gary
    $7,633,333

    $3,033,333

    $4,833,333
     
  12. infantrycak

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    Really? Can you name any?

    Ty Law was just cut but he was going to count $12.5 mil on the Patriots cap.
     
  13. Mistril48

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    Remember, only the highest 51 cap values count against the teams cap this time of year, so it's confusing how to represent player values. For example, when a FA is signed, it could 'bump' a RFA tendered player out of the top 51. On one hand, you want to put a cap value beside each player ... on the other, only the highest 51 count against the cap.
     
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    Last year the minimum RFA tender was 628k and those salaries were in the 28th-32nd highest cap figure range on the Texans roster (guys like Moran Norris, Derrick Vaughn, McCree, etc.). The guys in the 50-51 salary range are the ERFAs and other FAs signed to minimum deals (last year) in the 380k area. If your 51st highest salary is a RFA, my guess would be you're wayyyy over the cap (actually, I don't think it would be even possible...)
     
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    Thank you for the correction/clarification. I guess I was trying to point out that one one hand, cap numbers will be listed for about 90 odd players, but you can't just add them to calculate a teams cap.
     
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    The Texans are tied (w/CLE) for 10th on the slary cap status. $8.9mil under the new 2005 $85.5mil salary cap.

    This is as of today, March 4.

    Of course MIN is #1 with $31mil!

    Buffalo, Oak & TB are the 3 worst: $652k, $790k & $700k, respectfully.
     
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    How are these teams going to pay their draft picks?
     
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    IMO there are almost always guys at the end of the bench that can be cut if the draft pick looks better. Like the Texans' Matt Murphy, Quincy Monk, DD Acholonu or even Eric Brown. Not saying it will happen just possible.
     
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    How are the Bucs $700k under and still so bad, I thought that they had one of the best GMs in the business?
     

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