Salaries:my 2011 roster

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  1. badboy

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    http://rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/hou/?rs=1
    Adibi 550,000
    Barwin 480,000
    D. Brown 800,000
    Caldwell 480,000
    Casey 480,000
    S. Cody 3,500,000
    Cushing 3,500,000
    Daniels 5,170,000
    Dickerson 405,000
    Dreeson 910,000
    Foster 480,000
    Graham 405,000
    Hill 480,000
    Holliday 405,000
    K. Jackson 405,000
    Jamison 480,000
    Johnson 6,000,000
    McCain 405,000
    McMannis 405,000
    Mitchell 405,000
    Myers 2,750,000
    Nading 480,000
    Nolan 480,0000
    Quin 480,000
    Rackers 2,015,000
    Ryans 5,800,000
    Schaub 5,700,000
    Sharpton 405,000
    W. Smith 1,750,000
    S. Smith 405,000
    A. Smith 4,600,000
    Tate 405,000
    D. Townsell 405,000
    Walter 3,000,000
    Ward 875,000
    Mario W. 13,800,000
    Winston 4,500,000

    Total: $71,815, 215 for 37 players. 46 roster spots -37= 9 to sign from draft and free agency.

    This does not include bonus money and therfor not a true cap hit but close as I've found. For example, Mario's cap is $16m from my research.

    $120m + $3.5 m for a vet (cash benefit) +$3m borrowed from future= $126.5m reported NFL Salary cap allowance.

    $126.5 -$72m (rounded)= $54.5 million under cap.

    I have probably made some errors in math & some will disagree with my roster, but at least you can tell where my numbers come from. I have reviewed this until my eyes and head hurt and after I post it I'll probably groan at mistakes I've made.
     
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    Dead money and pro-rated bonuses would add to that quite a bit, I would estimate. Not really sure though, just trying to think of what would make the number so much bigger in other reports.
     
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    Hopefully we took care of a bunch of that during the uncapped season
     
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    And you would be correct, IMO. My understanding Mario's cap figure would be close to $20MM this season.

    Kieth Wieland from IntheBullsEye.com had these estimated figures

    Keith maintains one of the better Texans Cap pages around. He is a little behind due to last year not being capped and this years off the field issue dampening everyone's enthusiasm.

    What's always amazing to me is how few people understand how the prorated bonuses affect the yearly cap.
     
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    Unless I'm missing something, you're 46 roster spots is game day active, while I'm guessing the total roster will still be at least the same 53 it was last year - meaning 16 to sign from draft and free agency, not 9.
     
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    As stated in my thread bonus not known on all players and I did not research it. Dead money is about $23,000 if I remember correctly and insignificant. The salary cap guru hired by McNair 3-4 years ago as cleared it out.
     
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    I understand, I'm not trying to sandbag you. I'm just trying to figure out why our reported cap number is so much different than the one you calculated. I appreciate the effort.
     
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    I refer to Keith a lot but used roto world as only site I could find to have a complete roster listing of 2011 salaries. Mario's salary is as stated $13.8m and $16m was my last known cap figure (2010) and what I used in my example. Not surprised if 2011 will be $20m. Still, looks like we should have more than the $7m John McClain stated. I am open to facts showing players using up most of the cap space I have shown.

    My only complaint if that is most people just grab the first thing they hear or "ESPN says.." and runs with it as truth.
     


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    Not criticising you and I too am in the dark of where the $118 m or so number comes from. Heck, it might be correct but when I start crunching numbers it sometimes does not look the same. I don't understand why it has to be so complicated. Well maybe at first when a player's contract is worked out there may be grey areas about how money was spread over what years but it should be clearer than what we get.
     
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    And that would be a valid complaint.

    BTW nice work on your part putting the number dawn for us.
     

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