Saints, Jimmy Graham, franchise tag, and position battle

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  1. Playoffs

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    Interesting battle potentially ahead as TEs become more important.

    Compared to all receivers(WR/TE), Graham was 12th in targets, 13th in receptions, 15th in yards, 9th in 20+ yards, 12th in first downs, and 1st in TDs(16) while only ranking 66th amongst all receivers and 19th among TEs in snaps due to mid-October foot injury.


    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ays-not-keen-new-orleans-saints-franchise-tag
     
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    Call him a TE if you want, but if he lines up at WR 67% of the time and has top WR production then he deserves to get the WR franchise tag and not the TE tag. If you want to pay him like a TE (which clearly they do) then line him up as a TE and not a WR.
     
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    Here is your solution: If he lines up at WR 67% of the time then give him 67% of the franchise WR money and 33% of the TE money. That would give Graham $8 million instead of $6 million. Neither side should be angry over that.
     
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    This happened with Terrell Suggs and the Ravens in 2008. Suggs said he should be franchised as DE, and the Ravens said LB. Difference in tag amount was about $800K. The fact that there's no distinction between ILB and OLB for franchise tag purposes also muddied things up. They ended up splitting the difference and bumping up his tag amount by around $450K (With the blessing of all interested parties including the NFL and the NFLPA of course).

    I'm guessing that's where this ends up.
     
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    Jimmy Graham and Rethinking NFL Positions
     
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    Thats actually a really great idea.
     
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    ($10.5 mil x .67) + ($6 mil x .33) = $9.015 million
     
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    Which leads to [insert team name here] making [insert franchise QB name here] their punter to lower a bloated QB franchise tag. :kitten:

    The simple solution here is don't screw around with someone with as much talent of Graham. Lock him down for multiple years and don't poke the franchise tag bear.
     


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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ts-te-jimmy-graham-but-hes-not-worth-the-cost
     
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    I would not trade Graham.
     
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    It would not really be a trade, per se...

    Hefty price.
     
  12. Dutchrudder

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    If I were the Seahawks, I would definitely consider signing Jimmy Graham for about 10m per year. Give the Saints the 32nd pick in this draft, and probably the 31st or 32nd pick in 2015.
     
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    Can you imagine that team...? :wadepalm:
     
  14. Troy Chapman

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    I think the Seahawks would have to make more moves to do that, cap situation similar to ours.
     
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    They are projected to have over 11m in capspace to start free agency, and they could move around some more money to free up more space. If I was the Seattle GM, and I though Graham was a possibility, I would cut Zach Miller and free up 5 million to put towards signing Jimmy. There is no question that WR and TE are the weak links on that offense right now, and Graham would be a perfect fit for that team. 10m a year is what he can get, maybe 8m APY from a team like Seattle that has a very good chance of winning a Super Bowl in the next couple years.
     
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    Interestingly, Jordan Cameron of the Browns changed his twitter bio from "TE" to "pass catcher" just after the info about Graham and the Twitter bio came out.
     
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    I'm changing mine to QB...just in case I ever get franchised
     
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    Hey Mr. Graham this is what we got for you:

    You'll get to line up in the x, y, slot and z spots on the offense. Also, we'll need you to block huge DE's and LB's, and after they knock you silly, you get to release to go catch a ball and have about 5 guys looking to hit you hard enough to knock the ball loose.

    Also, you need to be one of the tallest guys on the field, but also one of the fastest. And we'll need you to play a little bit of fullback. So we need you to be 50% stud OT, and 50% stud WR. But hey, we'll pay you about 50% of what we pay those OT's and WR's. No, no no no, not 50% of BOTH their salaries, just 50% of their salaries period.

    Why you mad?
     
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