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  1. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    cowboys are getting it handed to them right now 17-0 in the 1st
     
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    Showtime100 Got AJ?

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    Damn. Dallas comes away with nothing there. Still 17- nutin.
     
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    Showtime100 Got AJ?

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    Well, the Cowboys got some MAJOR home cooking on their last touchdown. Jason Witten had a fistful of jersey close to the play for all to see except the officials.

    Still, Nawlans just made it 23-13. Reggie Bush is back but ineffective unless you count trying to catch the football with his helmet...lol.
     
  4. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke Hall of Fame

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    Ha ha, Bust fumbled it!
     
  5. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    yep !
     
  6. mattieuk

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    Reggie Slaton...ahem...Jones...ahem Bush, at it again.

    :wadepalm:
     
  7. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    The only reason the Girls got their 1st TD is that an unbelievably gross hold (and hold and hold) by the Girls on the N.O. secondary was ignored, even though it occur in line of the run and right next to the zebra.
     
  8. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    23-20 now
     


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    Pollardized Division Champ

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    Damn cowbitches making it close....
     
  10. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    cowboys took the lead
    27-20
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    27-23 gurls
     
  12. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    oh yeah LOL
     
  13. Showtime100

    Showtime100 Got AJ?

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    I picked Dallas but would much rather see them lose. Watching New Orleans today is like looking at a negative print of a Texans game, but with the same result likely.
     
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    Showtime100 Got AJ?

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    Blimey! Dallas was set to roll but instead got rolled. 30-27.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    As the gurls were missing that field goal, she laughed and sang out...

    Cowboys still suck!



    LMAO!!!
     
  16. RazorOye

    RazorOye Ayo

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    whew...
     
  17. JCTexan

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    I thought the same thing, the only difference is I thought Dallas did the Texans impersonation. They had the game wrapped up with the Williams first down, and what does he do? He fumbles the ball at the 11 yard line. New Orleans drives down the field way too easy to win the game. Hopefully it sticks with Dallas so Houston can get rid of the bad luck/defense. :kitten:
     
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    I don't get it, why do the Saints keep litl Reggie around, let alone pay him what they do to keep him around ? He almost cost them the game after being layed up for months and months with an injury. Easily the most overrated and overpaid player in the NFL.
     
  19. RazorOye

    RazorOye Ayo

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    Because he's instrumental to what we do. He was instrumental last year. Does he have bad games? Yep. Is he the best player from that draft? Nope. Has he underperformed, generally speaking, for my liking? Yep. Is he overpaid? Yes and no. I think another team in the NFL would pay what we pay him because of what he means to the offense. Do I think that number is probably too high? Yea.

    But the question: "Why do the Saints keep him around?" is a silly one.

    How many Texans have cost the Texans games? Did you cut them all?

    I also don't think you watch much Saints football. The guy definitely makes people pay attention to him. There were several plays last year that not many other players would've been able to make. Including the touchdown he made in the NFCCG and we all know how close that game was. of course he also had a punt fumble that fortunately didn't cost us, ultimately. He also played a crucial role in the game against Arizona in establishing the pace of the game - with 2 TDs, one on an electric run with a jawdropping stop and start and hop - he was phenomenal.

    Those two games led to the Saints going to the Super Bowl. And he played a significant role.

    I was more disappointed in Reggie's drop on a pass from Drew a few plays earlier than I was in the fumble on the punt return. The fumble was a great play by the defender.

    And the Saints preach and teach and practice going for the ball - so I'm more likely to assign Credit to the Defender on fumbles like that. Take the Malcolm Jenkins rip of the ball out of Williams hands that saved the game and gave use life - he stripped that ball. He worked on that.

    However, the pass that could've been a TD - certainly a first down on that drive - hit him in the hands and he was open. That was something he had entire control over -

    He had a bad game. He came off two months and a broken leg. While I wasn't happy with the performance - it was clear he wasn't quite up to speed.

    I'm certainly not ready to toss him away.

    You might also be interested in a well-written article that shows the impact Bush's presence has on defensive formations:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...s-return-gives-saints-muchneeded-threat-decoy

    the article closes with:

    I, for one, like having him around and I think he means a lot to our offense.

    There's a definite difference in how teams play us.

    Look at the pressure up the middle from the LBers - lots of stunts from OLBs trying to get pressure up the middle on Brees.

    They have the freedom when they don't have to account for Bush. ANd pressure up the middle affects Brees and his pocket more than pressure from anywhere else. That was the case this year - I have seen more push up the middle than I did nearly all of last year.

    Reggie is also our best blocking running back. The blocking from RBs this year has been terrible. Julius Jones isn't a big fan of contact. Ladell Betts was football-dumb. And Chris Ivory is an UDFA rookie from a small college. These guys cannot block like Bush does. He really is a strong blocker - and he excels at blitz pickup and getting chips on guys on the outside and then finding space as a checkdown receiver.

    Arguably, we've missed that part of his game more than most others with the pressure Drew has been seeing.

    If you're going to evaluate a guy, how about looking at the entire picture rather than passing judgment on a fumbled punt (which I don't think he should've taken in the first place, in his first game back - Moore was out there earlier and I preferred that route) in a single game and then asking, "Why do they keep him around?"
     
  20. Dread-Head

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    The Cowgirls have been getting lots of favorable (questionable) calls and lots of No calls over the past 3 weeks. Could it be that the officials and league want to see a Cinderella story? The Aints beat these cats by a field goal, but face it, the refs got that score closer than it should have been.
     

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