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  1. Goldeagle

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    I say bring back Hollings, at least he was different and had the ability to get to the corner.

    I dont know what the team sees in Verand Morency and was just another wasted draft pick when you consider how good Wells has improved along with the team.

    I have to say I think Wells could take the role of starter if Davis goes down. He has looked very good when he gets the chance to run the ball.

    Davis: Starter
    Wells: Bruiser
    Hollings: Speedster

    Dont have a clue why we got Morency, other than to run straight into the pack and get tackled on the 20 yard line on all kick offs.
     
  2. HJam72

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    Hollings....is....a....bust. Vernand Morency has a tremendous upside. With no experience at all, he is already WAY better than Hollings, but it still might have been better to use that pick for something else. Jonathon Wells is no slouch. You're right about that.

    I can't believe someone still wants to start Hollings. :cool:
     
  3. Goldeagle

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    Im not saying start Hollings, I am saying he is a better change of pace because of his speed.
     
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    OK, that makes a lot more since, but I still disagree. I've never seen Hollings do anything. I've heard that he's fast, but he never shows it, except apparently in track sprints. Now, Morency, he looks fast on a football field. He just doesn't quite know when to do what like DD does.
     
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    Morency is the quickest RB we have, just because he can't return kicks doesn't mean he can't contribute as a RB. I am guessing you didn't watch any of the preseason games, because Morency looked as good as Davis and Wells, if not better...
     
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    RB is the least of your worries, IMO.
     
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    Well this MB is to discuss all aspects of our team...
     
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    Which is why I respond to a thread titled "RUNNING BACKS" with '"RB is the least of your worries."

    Texans need O-Line help. Protection, protection, protection.

    Unless you don't want Dom Davis and A Johnson. We'll take both of them if you don't think them worthy of your team.
     


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    Texans don't need O line help, they need TE's who can block, use 2 RB's to block for Carr instead of 1, and Carr needs to stop running out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage when he could throw the ball away...Check to see how many sacks are credited to the O line...
     
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    .... this thread leaves me speechless.

    Hollings? oh how quickly we forget..
     
  11. Davis37

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    Plz dont ever say Hollings again... The guy is a bust... period... The only thing he can do to get positive yards is screens. "Mr. H" better have studied hard in college because its time for him to enter the "real world" and get a job. The closest he should ever get to another football field should be right next to you... In the stands
     
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    wasn't Hollings a db in College before converting to rb in 4 games. the Texans keep trying to circumvent the process of aquiring an elite rb with a starter from the 3rd & 4th rd plus a supplemental pick. Texans lack the running game that should be developed by now. the trick will be to retool and quickly. its going to require a two step process- the physical handle the rock 30+ times rb and elite pulling Center that work well together.

    did I mention that Minnesota leads the nation in rushing yards- 326.5 Y/G
     
  13. Vinny

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    I think Morency is the most talented back we have. He will be our feature back one day soon....I just don't know when. Dom goes back to 3rd down back and kick returner by next year sometime to be one of the better ones in that role.
     
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    Wow Vinny you have an active imagination. Morency has talent, but he is the same back as Dom Davis with age and less vision. Morency is a good second back and possible 3rd down back, but as a 20+ carry runner I just dont feel he has it. Take a look at his games in college against the top of the big 12 he was overwhelmed. If he goes against first team defenses in something more than preseason vanilla then he will not be overly productive. At least not with our current team.
     
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    This is a moot point because as a starter both Morency and Davis are about a half step above "ordinary". Wells is just ordinary. Hollings is below ordinary with extraordinary speed. This isn't a bad thing because every team in the NFL has guys running second and third team who are in this same talent range. They come in, play hard, and give you your hundred yards (sometimes) when the starter is out.

    From time to time they have a good day or a good series of games and they look like legitimate franchise backs but most of the time it's just a question of them running on a team that either sucks against the run, or a team that is playing the run soft because they don't fear the second team quality back. That's why DomD gets his thousand every year (and not much more).

    We all have opinions and that's mine. I believe that our "franchise back" is yet to be drafted. We don't have a guy who can get it done all the time, we never have had one.
     
  16. Mr Shush

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    Bear in mind that Morency is actually older than Davis. Less wear on the tyres, sure, but still.

    I also think that the Davis's new contract makes it pretty clear that we see him as our starter for a few years yet - that's a lot of money to pay for a third down back.
     
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    I got to agree with Vincent on this one, because Morency has that quickness,
    explosiveness hitting the line and those first steps beyond the line after the cut that's maybe the single most important ability a good back needs to have.
    Time will tell if he has the versatility that DD has, i.e. can he be a reliable pass receiver. But he's definitely the best pure runner on the Texans' roster.
     
  18. Mr Shush

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    I think the sad truth is that we're still at a stage where we have to pay over the odds for any player not on his rookie contract, because given the choice they'd rather play elsewhere. Davis's new deal is considerably cheaper than would be the case for a top flight RB, because neither he nor the front office think he is one. It also represents much better value for us than the crazy contract the Saints gave McAllister. But I agree that we're paying a solid starter like a good starter. I just don't think we have a choice - the alternative would be an inadequate starter, at this point. Morency may turn out to be as good as you think - I have no idea, as living in the UK I have yet to see one second of him on film. If he does, terrific, but he's far from a proven NFL running back at the moment.
     
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    Hollings is horrid. I'd like to see him as a kick returner in place of morency however. But I really would rather P-Buch be the KR. As far as morency goes he's a bust. If DD goes down I say take wells.
     
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    To label a player a bust two games into their first season in the league is daft. Morency may turn out to be a bust, he may turn out to be a pro-bowler. We don't know yet. Buchanon has never been a KR in the league, only a PR, and I believe that when healthy Mathis is the starting KR (and with good reason, given his college record).
     

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