Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by TexanPride#1, Jun 19, 2005.
Where's ROSS VERBA
If we don't get a good left tackle david carr will be
False starting around the house, and occasionally HOLDING people that go by him on the street.
good thing we havent wasted $35 million on verba then. he's an average LT at best, and i fancy pitts and wand both have more upside at LT than verba
hahahahaha.....man i needed that, thank you.
We don't want him, if we did we'd already signed him cuz noone else wants him. Remember I said in a similar thread that C. Palmer was his HC in Clev and knows plenty about him. Not to mention he's been in trouble with the law.
If you're drafting guys with some history (T.J., Morency) you may chalk it up to youth and something that might be corrected.
But you never want to bring in a 31-32 year old that has recently sparked up some more trouble, especially when they want 35 million dollars.
I think we would sign him if we could get the money right. Who knows if that will happen though.
What would you consider "right " money in a 3-4 year deal
Reasonably low bounus money. He is a better Guard than Tackle so I'd want him to get on board with a deal that had most of the money in earned incentives because he would likely be replaced soon at LT if he won that job in 2005. I don't care if they had a contract to pay him 70 million in 2007 as long as it is not in the form of a bonus.
Has he played G in the NFL and for how long?
The low bonus $$ makes sense cuz we'll probably cut him B-4 his contract expires anyway.
He's just like Pitts in the fact that he doesn't have the body type of a prototype LT. He is the same height as Pitts but 25-30 pounds smaller. His game is more of a nasty, mauling game than one that uses long arms and great feet to finnesse speed rushers. If he was a solid, viable LT the Browns would not be so quick to launch him instead of paying him big time LT money.
He has always been projected as a better guard than tackle but has played LT for most of his career.
Every time I check this thread with the title "Ross Verba News" I think one thing.
"Hope there isn't any".
I don't think we need him, I don't think he's going to be a positive addition. I'd rather see the Texans pass on him but I will say that I trust them to make the right decision here and if they sign him then they need him. Their needs I'm sure they know much better than I ever will.
I just have a bad feeling about this guy.
I don't trust them.
They signed Riley and he's a cancer off the field, and he's a chump for penalties on the field........Verba is better on the field, but, are either of them worth the negative attitude in the locker room.
NO.......but, they have screwed themselves by not addressing the line properly at the start of the off-season.........so, who knows.
I really have a problem with the line and how we are seemingly failing to address the central issues on an annual basis. Now, they have tried to deal with it in the past: with the expansion draft and trying to sign Pace, but they have really failed in this area for the most part. It is the 4th year and we still are having major issues figuring out the line personnel. I really cannot believe we are still juggling our offensive line and trying to figure out how to protect Carr, find more running room and more time...
The next draft will have to be a premiere lineman. Now, there have not been many chances to land one in the draft, because there have not been many...but we really have to fix this as a number one priority before anything esle imho.
Take this with a grain of salt because the source is Profootballtalk.com, but they posted the following:
VERBA'S $35 MILLION PAY DAY COMING?
Speaking of Ross Verba, he had said that he wanted a five-year, $35 million deal, either from the Browns or another organization.
We've heard that there's at least one team willing to give him a $35 million contract.
The deal would break down as follows:
1. Minimum salary in year one;
2. Minimum salary in year two;
3. the rest of it in years three, four, and five.
Of course, Verba would be cut before year three.
If it is us AND the signing bonus is held VERY low (3 Mill. ?), then that is something to consider. Who cares what the salary is out past the second year. He would provide depth and possible starting material. However, I hope they check out his lockeroom issues carefully.
and what team is willing to give Verba what he wants do you know?
I'd give him a contract that said he would earn 10 dollars a game. For every false start, he is fined one dollar. For every sack he gives up he is fined 2 dollars. At the end of the game if he owes more money then he is paid, he must personally apologize to every Texans fan in attendence and beg their forgiveness for his hoorendous play.
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