Rick Smith: future NFL power broker

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  1. m5kwatts

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    Scurfield just did a blog about this list Rick Smith was featured on.... it ranks the top 10 future NFL power brokers... be weary of the criteria here its interesting

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    http://blog.houstontexans.com/2010/10/13/si-texans-gm-smith-on-the-rise/
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/10/06/10.future.power.brokers/index.html
     
  2. Hookem Horns

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    Not bad for a guy who was hired because of his race. :sarcasm:
     
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    So he's the Darryl Morey of the NFL? Super.
     
  6. Texecutioner

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    Smith couldn't carry Morey's jock strap with another pair of hands to help him.

    They aren't even close.
     
  7. m5kwatts

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    I think this is true. But moreso because Morey is just that good, not an indictment on Rick. I think Rick has been an above average GM and generally makes good decisions. You can't argue with that when you look at the roster turnover from 2005 to now.
     
  8. Texecutioner

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    Yes I can. That's 4 to 5 years to get that roster turned around. The Texans have still not even made the playoffs as of yet.

    Smith doesn't do jack in the off season as far as making shrewd trades or free agent acquisitions. He's made a very few and there has been a ton of guys that could have been had in pretty much every off season to fill certain holes that we've had where certain free agents would have filled in nicely. He's extremely conservative and pretty much strictly wants to build through the draft. Now I don't know if that's because Mcnair won't let him do anything in the off season and his hands are tied where that is concerned, but the fact remains that Smith hardly does a thing. Our secondary of this season is just another example of that, because all off season long I said over and over that the Texans needed to get some help in the secondary and they did nothing and handicapped themselves. They did the same thing the off season before last and our secondary has gradually gotten worse and worse.


    On the other hand Morey routinely rapes teams on trades and gets the better end of the deal on them. The NBA draft is more of a crap shoot than it's ever been and he's made some damn good draft picks as well. He's kept this team in a pretty good financial situation as well, and I loved how he handled Tracy Mcgrady. He was stern and handled it like a smart professional where many other GM's would have caved.
     


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    Our secondary should be much, much better with a GM that used to play safety. As it is, if our last place defense is indicative of his evaluation skills, then it's obvious that the title of "top 10 future NFL power broker" is based on other qualifications.
     
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    I won't say this is completely true. We've gotten several players through free agency. Kevin Bentley, Antonio Smith, Joel Dressen, Kevin Walter, Vonta Leach, Bernard Pollard, Wade Smith, Suan Cody.... I think that is all of the ones who have contributed, there may be more.

    We don't get the high profile guys you (& several others) would like us to get. Maybe McNair is cheap (but considering the money he has spent, I find that hard to believ).... Oh yeah, that Schaub guy didn't come cheap. But I think there may be another reason we don't chase the high profile names.... like, they usually chase the money, and no matter what we offer, they'll just take that to another team and ask them to match, or come close. Since that has happened a few times in the past, I have to assume that is the main reason.


    Done nothing??

    I don't know that we're worse than we were last year. I know the stats say that we are, but the W-L says different. In the games when our offense was able to score.. we won.

    The only guy we got rid of that could make another team's roster was Dunta. It's a hard sell for me to believe Dunta would have made this team better. I remember a very similar situation in 2006 where we were in the running for worse secondary ever. Dunta was part of that team. We're younger now, & I think we are more talented.
    I've got no beef with Morey... if you want to believe the rockets are a better franchise than the Texans..... you go with that. IMO..... neither franchise has a lot to brag about right now. Both have proven to be good enough to get your hopes up, & that's about it.
     
  11. Texecutioner

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    I never once said that the Rockets were a better franchise than the Texans. I stated that Morey is by far a better GM, and you'd have an extremely hard time arguing against that.

    If you wanted to compare team owners that have owned teams in Houston though, I'd say that Les Alexander has been by far the owner that has been the most committed to winning than any of the others who are current or who were here before him.
     
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    I'm not really sure what "power broker" means but clearly its different than NFL GM where he has had modest success at best.
     
  13. thunderkyss

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    I'm saying thinking Morey "raped" other GMs IMHO is akin to thinking Smith "raped" the draft by getting Diles in the 7th, Quin in the 3rd & Nolan in the 7th (I know it's a stretch here, but...)

    It might look good on paper, but what has it got the Rockets???

    Potential. About the same place the Texans are.
     
  14. hradhak

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    I don't know that you can really compare 2 teams in different sports. Morey is an excellent GM and has done a very good job with the team. It's also a lot easier to get into the playoffs in the NBA (8 vs 6 with smaller population sizes for each conference)
    Basketball also requires fewer player acquisitions per year and has far fewer injuries during the season. Also coaching has a lot less to do with winning in the NBA than in the NFL (IMHO, this is up for debate). For the most part the cap rules are different as well.

    Rick Smith has done some very good things with this team, and for the most part has put the best players on the field. I can't say that we've fielded the best team we could have every year. It seems like secondary is a chronic issue and we didn't address it (or addressed it and got it wrong) this year.
     
  15. Texecutioner

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    Dude, every team in the league can point to draft picks like that and pat themselves on the back. Smith has had a few nice ones no doubt, but Kubes has had a lot of say so in that as well.

    My main complaints about Smith has been in his lack of action in making trades and free agent acquisitions to fill needed holes. He's ignored the secondary for two straight years in a row. Morey has been one of the most active GM's in the NBA in the off season and gets guys on some pretty good contracts in a sport where there is guaranteed money all around the board. I'd love to see what a guy like Morey could do in a sport like the NFL where the contracts aren't guaranteed like they are in the NBA and the NFL.
     
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    I gotcha, and I don't disagree. Just saying from a results P.O.V. They are in the same place. Their acquisitions haven't panned out yet.
     
  17. TexansFanatic

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    I'm with you, Tex.

    We live in an age of true NFL parity. Teams commonly go from worst to first in a year.

    The Texans have done nothing for eight/going on nine years and four/going on five of those years have been under Smith's watch.

    I appreciate the plan of building through the draft. I agree that this is the way dynasties are built.

    But there are also things a GM can do to take an 8-win team to an 11-win team with just a few key acquisitions. But those things require a bold stroke and we haven't seen that so far from Smith.
     
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    I think its an indication to how much this franchise has struggled overall when people point to nice value picks as something to be pound your chest about. He's been hit and miss on his higher draft picks, something that continues to haunt the team.

    I like Diles, but he's not in the realm of being a pro-bowler anytime soon. Doesn't mean I don't like him or think he's solid. I also think Diles is playing out of position though FWIW.

    I like Quinn as well, but he's a solid #2. Not that there's anything wrong with getting a #2 in the 4th.

    Nolan hasn't proven anything. Not sure how you could point to him as something to be proud of yet.



    Pretty much sums up how I feel. At the end of the day this team has Kubiak's blue prints all over, not sure how you can say the guy is a powerbroker when his HC has just as much or probably more input in the draft and FA signings.

    I agree on Morey. I think it's just to compare the two when its much easier to turn over a roster on a basketball team and a single trade can really turn around a franchise.

    I would say that Rick is about an average GM who generally, when given the opportunity to act on his own, makes good decisions.
     

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