Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by GuerillaBlack, Sep 6, 2009.
Richard Seymour was traded to the Raiders for a 2011 first round draft pick. Per ESPN.
I just saw this on ESPN. That is definately a suprise trade. Too bad they couldn't wait until after we play the Raiders.
That's what good front offices do! They understand the value of their players and make good decisions to build for the future.
Very true. The Patriots FO is the best in the league and has been for some time.
The Raiders have been one of the worst for some time too. New England got the better end of this deal.
Did I read that right? 2011 first round pick??
That doesn't seem like a good deal to me, unless they get some 2010 mid-rounders to go with it
Seymour is in the last year of his contract and will be looking for a big pay day. Plus the Pats are in a position to wait on this savings bond and in the end it will be a 1st round pick.
It's always better to trade a player a year early rather than a year late .
Not to mention he's been shopped before.
I would not want to be around him right now.
Man the Raiders are dumb........they need ALOT more help than Seymour and they need to finish rebuilding that team with YOUNG talent, but here they are throwing away first round picks.
Check that......maybe this was the better way to go, because when your owner drafts players in the first round strictly on how fast they run the 40, maybe it is better if you can get a proven commodity, regardless of who it is.
That franchise is a mess.
As opposed to using the 1st round pick on another Heyward-Bey, Russel, or Huff?
This trade is all the better for Belicheat if, as many suspect, the new CBA contains a salary scale for rookies. If so, then high draft picks will no longer back albatrosses around a franchise's neck. Any new CBA probably won't affect the draft until 2011.
Can't believe Oakland did that without some sort of extension from Seymour. They either lose him after one year or overpay big time to retain him. Why do teams keep handing out high draft picks to the Pats?
I cant wait for the day when our trade can stockpile draft picks by trading excess talent
The Raiders game just got tougher
I have no idea why for some reason, the Pats get to sell high and buy low. consistently with other teams
why would the Raiders make this move? they are not a player or two away from the playoffs ..
like they say "sucker born every minute"
Actually the trade sorta makes sense when you think about it from multiple angles.
As someone pointed out Al typically makes boneheaded first round decisions, though I'll give him that Huff looked good coming out of college and for some reason or another it hasn't translated well.
Raiders are struggling to stop the run and just lost their leader in sacks to....the Pats. Seymour should help with stopping the run and getting consistent pressure up the middle.
The AFC West has been topsy turvy this offseason with the firing of Shannahan, Chiefs making changes, and we'll see how Merriman's recent arrest stand with the commish. Personally I see a possible suspension for ol' Roids.
They got a stable of Running backs and if Russell can give them a semblance of a passing game they might be more dangerous then people think.
it hurts their future, but this makes the Raiders a better football team in 2009.
their division is pathetic and with that schedule they could put together a decent season. they have pieces to the puzzle, they just have to put them together.
Seymour is someone who may bring some much needed professionalism and leadership to this team. Lord knows they aren't getting it from the Head Coach with him assaulting his assistants and The Jumpsuit needs to stop getting involved in football operations. He used to be great but he needs to hang it up and get someone who is a top football guy in there to run things. Maybe Al would consider Bill Cowher as someone to finally give the reins over to. It's gonna have to be someone he ultimately respects as a coach...not just a former Raider great like Art Shell. He has to do it. He has embarassed himself year after year and although I love the guy for what he stands for, he needs to quit.
If it was a 2010 1st Rounder its a bad deal, but not having to 'pay the piper' for 2 more full seasons is a tempting proposition. No payments till 2011.
The genius just traded the slow kid for his pudding. Dang it rick you shoulda called Al maybe we could have gotten a 2nd rounder for TJ....
No self respecting coach would ever work for the Raiders as long as Al Davis is above ground.
Belichik again shows he is the smartest guy in the room. With no labor agreement in place for the 2010 season he gets what is most likely a top 10 pick in the 2011 draft after a new agreement is in place and most likely a more strenuous rookie wage scale.
Not to mention Seymour is a FA at the end of the season and he will most likely not sign until he can test the FA waters, so it is a 1st round pick for a one year use of a player. That is just down right stupid.
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