Report: NFL hit by 'rash of positive' drug tests

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  1. Ole Miss Texan

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8705732?MSNHPHMA

    I think players should be smart about what they're doing and talk to team trainers/doctors before taking any drugs (legal). I think it'd be really smart to go through a formality process to avoid this particulart thing. Team officials should know exactly what is and what isn't banned. A player should have to write down, I'm taking this for this reason, that for that reason, etc. I think owners/coaches/team doctors should be concerned about that too b/c you don't want players off taking all sorts of stuff that can be harmful or detrimental, epsecially if combined.
     
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    Just heard on ESPN that the number is 10, to perhaps as high as 15.

    Wonder if any of our guys in in the mix? :phone:
     
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    Ok. Just a question...


    Do these players REALLY have to take pills to lose weight during the season?


    It seems all they would have to do to lose weight is to miss one meal based on their activity. Imagine how much weight is lost during just one game. It seems that I heard that many players have to eat more just to keep weight.

    I saw this story earlier and thought immediately that they were taking the pills to cover up another drug they may be taking.
     
  4. RazorOye

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    apparently Smith and Deuce are not the only ones on the list from my Saints

    I wanna cry the way this season has gone

    These guys are responsible for what they put into their systems and I am not blaming the NFL or anything like that - they have to do what they have to do.

    Apparently, the substance was water pills. At the beginning of training camp, Payton pressed getting weight down with the players. Brees and others commented on Deuce, specifically, saying his weight was down to what he was in high school and college and he looked faster.

    Deuce is my favorite player on the Saints and perhaps I am being overly naive - I just don't want to believe he was knowingly taking steroids. It's just so unlike him.

    This season is miserable... just end it now.

    Please. Put me out of my misery.

    Hurt or injured or suspended this year - from starters alone - Will Smith, Hollis Thomas, Sedrick Ellis, Scott Fujita, Tracy Porter, Roman Harper, Mike McKenzie, Randall Gay, Jamar Nesbit, Jammal Brown, Jonathan Goodwin, Jeremy Shockey, Marques Colston, David Patten, Reggie Bush, Deuce McAllister.

    Just a mess.

    What's up with the training staff? This HAS to go beyond mere bad luck.
     
  5. RazorOye

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    It doesn't necessarily have to be during the season. These tests could have been conducted during camp, preseason, etc...

    Word has been around since before the 49ers game - for Deuce, anyway.
     
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    "NFL Live" just reported an unnamed Texan is on this list.
     
  7. Ole Miss Texan

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    We feel your pain. Led the league in injuries last year. go texans :texans:
     
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    Charles Grant was the 3rd Saint.
     


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    CBS reported that Deuce sent the pills - Star Pills or starcaps I think they are called - to the NFL offices 4 years ago to make sure they were okay to take. The NFL said that they were fine. Perhaps something changed in those 4 years?

    I am hopeful that this gets straightened out. Somehow.

    Deuce looks good today.
     
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    That's good news. I like Deuce a lot. But more importantly, I hope all these players and their teams knew about the pills and took the appropriate actions like Deuce did.
     
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    [PAT, KEVIN WILLIAMS HAD POSITIVE DIURETICS RESULTS, TOO
    Posted by Mike Florio on October 26, 2008, 12:22 p.m.
    Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the list of players who tested positive for a banned diuretic include both of the Vikings’ starting defensive tackles, Pat and Kevin Williams.

    If the suspensions ultimately are upheld, the Vikings would be without the services of both players for four games. And that would decimate the Vikings’ run defense.

    Glazer also reports that Falcons defensive tackle Grady Jackson is one of the names on the list.

    The release of these names further highlights concerns that league sources are leaking confidential information regarding appeals that have not been finalized. Attorney David Cornwell, who reportedly will be representing some of the affected players, has recently made an aggressive call for measures aimed at ensuring that reporters don’t disclose this confidential information without also disclosing the source.E][/QUOTE]

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
     
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    couple of other facts I have come across that seem to be true:

    1. the substance in question did *NOT* list the banned chemical in its list of ingredients. Deuce did his due diligence in checking the labels - apparently there is already talk of legal ramifications against the company which said nothing of Bumetanide on the bottle

    2. the NFL has introduced no items in this category (water pills) since Deuce submitted these pills to the NFL before he started taking them. Bumetanide was apparently on the list when Deuce sent the pills to the NFL offices and they cleared the substance. I am guessing they just did what Deuce did - read the label of ingredients.

    At the end of the day, I think Deuce will be suspended. Gooddell has shown no tolerance for any ambiguity. It's on the list and in your system - you're going to sit.

    It sucks.

    But it does vindicate a bit more in my eyes as a diehard fan of his and that's worth something, too.
     
  14. kcdoubleeagle

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    sorry...but these guys are on roids. Don't take it so hard.....i would bet a vast majority of NFL players are juiced. They only caught a few of them. No big deal...I would probably juice too if i had to take hits like that every sunday.:glasshalffull:
     
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    You know what you call a pro football player who doesn’t take steroids? An Arena Football player. :thisbig:

    Deuce Loves Him Some Steroids!!!:splits:
     
  16. TexansLucky13

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    So when will the suspension go into effect for the Vikings DT's? Can it be before next week, please?
     
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    I sure hope so. Myers has no chance whatsoever.
     
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    Yep. With the way our offense is shaping up, I don't see us losing to any team who can't generate a pass rush. The way we are controlling the clock, our defense is staying fresh. Success definitely does trickle down through each phase of the game.
     
  19. RazorOye

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    hilarious.... :headhurts:

    Anyway back to more productive discussion.

    The players are considering a lawsuit against the manufacturers since they did not properly disclose the ingredients:

    From a PFT link on the Saints boards:

    The interesting thing here was that a report showed that Bumetanide was in the product in a report in late 2007 but apparently no change to the product information was changed. Not sure why. I think part of the appeal of Star Caps is the "All Natural" branding. Puzzling to say the least.

    Deuce also released a statement - he's been working with the NFL on this for a month and a half now.

    we shall see....

    Not sure if this will or won't affect the Vikes massive Pro-Bowl DTs or not
     

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