Remind us how BOB became offensive guru?

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  1. TripleTap

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    MODS: PLS DELETE THIS THREAD. I REGRET HAVING STARTED IT. TT

    This offense looks awful, even when they win. All those runs for next to nothing. Is anyone blocking? Are the runs poorly designed? Or just predictable? Or do we lack RB talent? Or all of above? And the clever 4 yard pass on 3rd and 6? Is that a thing? What kind of thing is that? I watched Seattle and Detroit--both had MUCH better offensive production. The 12 yard pass! Who ever heard of that? It's crazy! And HOLES to run through, and outside runs, and . . . I mean, really, Brock was a little better, he did throw a few passes actually TO the receivers. But scheme? I don't see it. Almost looks like a high school team. Still, the defense looked GREAT at the beginning of the game.

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  2. JCTexan

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    So you watched Detroit put up 6 points and thought they had more production than Houston did putting 27 points on Oakland?
     
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    Old news. Best to lower expectations and enjoy the fact that we win ugly and pray for a miracle that it can happen again.
     
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  4. steelbtexan

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    I would like to repond to this , but no minds will be changed.

    I feel more stupid for spending my time posting this after enjoying the game today with my wife.

    BTW, BOB is gone after the next game, hopefully the next HC is more to your liking.
     
  5. 76Texan

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    Best to lower expectations and enjoy the fact that we win ugly. PERIOD.

    Anything else and you start raising expectation again.
    :barman::brando:
     
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  6. chicagotexan2

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    I think because someone bought him a tshirt that said #1 offensive guru.

    Or he was the RBs coach at Polk High when Al Bundy scored 4 TDs in one game.
     
  7. thunderkyss

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    I need to study our run game. I wonder if the issue is with Osweiler reading the defense wrong & running to the loaded side. Gruden mentioned at least once that Osweiler needs to recognize the strong safety coming down & we were running right into him.

    As far as throwing short of the sticks, that's on the QB. Some situations the QB should challenge the defense on deeper routes. Other times you take what the defense gives you & expect the player to make a play.
     
  8. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel BUENO!

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    It came in a gift pack with one of those trucker-style hats and a coffee mug that said the same thing. Together the shirt, cap, and mug can't be wrong.
     
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  9. bigmck

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    Did you know that Peg was a Cheerleader that year?
     
  10. Seegara

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    Sometimes it's on the QB for throwing too soon. On stop routes, hooks, square-ins, etc., it's clearly the receiver's fault.
     


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    I don't think it's anybody's fault. Just part of the game. We give the ball to the RB well behind the Line to gain all the time, expecting him to break a tackle, push the pile, or the OL to move the LOS.

    It's not that different from throwing a screen to Will Fuller in the flats.

    Throwing to a receiver short of the line to gain, we're asking him to make a play. Make someone miss, break a tackle, fall forward.

    Like the touchdown Antonio Brown made to win the division for the Steelers? Everyone was expecting a throw into the end zone. All those were covered up, Ben felt better to throw it to Brown & let him make a play.

    It wasn't Ben's fault, it wasn't Antonio's fault.
     
  12. Seegara

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    We hand the ball off deep in the backfield to gain more yardage, but that might not be good strategy against a packed goal line defense. Unless you have fine blockers it's usually better to hand it to the up back or let the QB keep it and score before the D can react.
    As for screens and very short passes, those can be a good tactic. We're debating completions 1 yard short of the marker on 3rd down. Those get passed off as the luck of the circumstances, as the old Oilers were notorious for doing. It's actually one of the stupid little things you can do to lose a ball game.
     
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    Tough to do when you're 32nd in YAC.
     
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    I didn't say it was smart
     
  15. powda

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    Bill Musgrave (raiders oc) is being let go. I don't know that he and ob have anything in common systematically - but its a name and he can't be worse then Godsey.
     
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    Shotgun handoffs with a weak offensive line are useless.

    Running into the same hole time after time is borderline lunacy. I was disappointed that the coaching staff wasn't more creative with what they had in Lamar Miller. Prior to the season everyone talked about his speed, and then O'Brien tried to turn him into a power back. No stretch plays, toss sweeps, nothing to utilize his talent only force feeding the 'system'. Dude won't last more than a few years with how he's being used.

    Passing tree is also fairly simple. Basic linear routes with minimal 'pick' plays or angular utilization.

    Honestly it's a fairly simple vanilla offense compared to some other teams. Those who argue for it or make excuses are in denial since the team wins. I'm indifferent as long as the team wins, but it's a damn cringe fest when we are on offense most of the time.
     
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  17. False Start

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    Godsey makes Bill Peterson look like a genius. :shades:
     
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    Godsey makes a dog turd look like a genius.
     
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    Because he hollered at brady....once
     
  20. Earl34

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    Well, O'Brien did get his reputation from yelling at a HOF QB. Little did people know. He's so arrogant, he yells at everyone.
     

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