Reggie Bush or Andre Ware?

Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by Avenged Sevenfold Texan, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. Just figured I would bust some chops and be a homer like all the other VY enthusiast. I say Andre Ware would have been a Hall of Famer if he was drafted by any other organization other than Detroit. Hey he did win the Heisman(spell checked by swtbound07 get your software at your local draft VY supporter ;)), he is from Houston. He had tremendous passing stats. He could even announce games if he needed to. :spy:

    Anyway please no more VY talk. He will not be drafted by the Texans. Outside of Houston he is not even the best QB. I'll get off my soap box. Just tired of all the Reggie vs. VY debate when there isn't even one.

    More like trade down, draft Reggie, or Mario. VY doesn't even come into the equation for the Texans to draft.


    If you don't want to be a Texan fan if we don't draft VY, you were never a Texan fan to start with. So go hop on another bandwagon.:twocents:
     
  2. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

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    hmm, much like ware, young played in an offense that made him look better than he really is.
     
  3. Tale Gator

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    Actually, Andre won the Heisman.
     
  4. hollywood_texan

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    I met Andre Ware at a business type conference. I don't think most people knew who he was.

    I was really impressed, we talked at the conference and at the reception and carried on several conversations. Really a cool guy.

    So lay off Andre, he went to Detriot of all places.
     
  5. swtbound07

    swtbound07 Jackass of Day!

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    Brief points to address, I have to get back to the abortion thread
    1) You dont know who will be drafted, no reason to criticize anothers opinion
    2)Not all vince fans are UT homers (has been proven ad nauseum)
    3)I hear more Bush fans saying they wont support the texans organization if they dont get their guy as vince fans....I was here before the draft, and i'll be here after.
    4) If your going to put bold print on the word "heisman", spell it properly. Hows that for busting somebodys chops?
     
  6. Mike Kerns

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    Can't we just accept that if you are Pro VY you will be called a UT homer & If you are Pro Reggie you will be labeled as "buying into the ESPN Hype"
     
  7. swtbound07

    swtbound07 Jackass of Day!

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    Its an awfull lot to ask people to stop discussing a prospect based on YOUR guarantee, isnt it?
     
  8. Porky

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    Andre Ware was a bust? No way. How could this happen? He is from beautiful downtown Houston. All hail Houston QB's. They never fail in the NFL, everyone knows that. :spy:
     


  9. Tale Gator

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    Shouldn't it be the other way around...

    "Enough of this abortion talk, I need to get back to the NFL Draft discussion."

    :hmmm:
     
  10. Mr. White

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    Sure, I'm tired of the VY vs. RB talk. VY ai't coming here. Let's move on.

    What? I thought you said no more VY talk. Then you talk about VY. Does the VY moratorium go into effect only after you get your shot off?

    ***edit***
    Nothing personal, bro, just busting your chops.
     
  11. Mr. White

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    FWIW, Andre Ware won the Heisman before the institution of football figured out the run-and-shoot. I call it "the Great Run-n-Shoot Swindle."

    UH was on probation that year and they were banned from TV. So the voters had never even seen the guy play. But they figured stats like that are inarguable....with numbers like that, you can't deny the guy.

    I'm an Andre Ware fan and was bummed to see him not really produce on the next level.
     
  12. Texans Horror

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    Can we please stop posting about Michael Huff? I am getting sick and tired of it. We are NOT taking Michael Huff with the first pic, people. What a bunch of UT :homer: ...

    :jk:
     
  13. bkimble

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    Look dude, Bush will be a bust just like Ware was. Bush is nothing more than hype. He wasn't even the best back on his own team. Go check history very few Heisman winners have been successful in the NFL in the last 15 years. And I don't see Bush being any difference. The bottomline is this, Bush is just a part-time slot back that will get crushed in the NFL. If you think Bush is going to be able to carry the ball 25 times a game in the NFL than you're fooling yourself. He never did that in college. So, why do you think he could do it now? You clowns talk about this guy like he is a stud or the second coming of Eric Dickerson, Bo Jackson or Barry Sanders, Bush only started 2 years at USC. Mark my word, the Texans are making the biggest mistake. I know you can't get past the hype, but I can't wait for Vince to come back to H-town and run all over the Texans. Look don't take my word go review the Rose Bowl tape Vince ran all over your USC and your beloved Bush. Its funny how history has way of repeating it's self.
     
  14. texplayer2

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    :deadhorse :rolleyes: Another person that just watched the Rose Bowl. 8 more days......
     
  15. Huge

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    So a simple solution to this is the start another thread on the topic.

    Brilliant.
     
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    Wow, if an offensive scheme can allow a mediocre player to run and pass all over every defense he faces like they're standing still, it's a wonder more teams don't run that offense.

    And let's face it, Vince didn't get his reputation by throwing TD's with 15 seconds left to put up 70 points on SWC teams. He was so dominant that he didn't even have to play in the second half of most games, and earned his rep in part by beating the #4 team in the nation on the road and winning the national title by owning the "greatest team of all time".

    BTW, did Ware have a national championship, or even a SWC championship? Didn't think so.
     
  17. Big B Texan Fan

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    WORD!!!
     
  18. thunderkyss

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    you're right..... the Houston Texans aren't taking Vince Young with the #1 overall selection in the 2006 NFL draft. They will draft Reggie Bush, unless he thinks he is worth more than the Texans believe him to be worth.

    But If I were the Houston Texans, I'd definitely consider drafting Vince Young. As a matter of fact, I would more than likely draft Vince... for one... this best quarterback available thing.....

    Lets see..... the Titans want Vince.... the Raiders want Vince...... the Cardinals want Vince......... Green Bay want Vince, and I believe Denver wants Vince.

    Matt Leinart...... who you probably think is the best QB in the draft(more than likely because you've been bathing in the ESPN kool-aide) will more than likely be the third QB selected.

    Secondly, in a perfect world, where people do the things they should do.... It would be nice to put a probowler at 7 out of 11 positions, so that David Carr can find success in the NFL, But imagine offering the Jets David Carr, and Reggie Bush for Vince Young and all their draft choices.......

    Okay, that won't happen..... Tennesee will take Vince with the 3rd pick in the draft.

    But lets look at it another way.... what can we honestly expect from Reggie his rookie year?? 1600 total yards, 12 TDs??

    Well, in 2004, when David played a played well, DD did exactly that.... minus 300 yards, plus one TD....

    If Kubiak does his thing, there is no reason to believe DD wouldn't improve on those numbers, his 4th year in the NFL, since he has improved every year. 19th amoung all NFL running backs in 2003.... 15th in 2004, and 9th in 2005. Expect him to be in the top 5 in 2006.

    Now, add Reggie Bush into the mix..... scratch all that. Total production between he and DD, might net 2-5 more touchdowns...... yardage doesn't really matter here... even if total rushing/recieving yards for the pair increase by 900 yards, I can't see the two of them getting more than 20 TDs..... where I think DD alone in Kubiaks system will get 16. & that's being conservative considering he had 13 in 2004 with Capers and crew.

    So you're saying we should draft Reggie Bush for 5 touchdowns a year??

    That's nothing....... almost nothing.

    If I draft Vince... sit him on the bench..... for eight games. David Carr either performs or Vince will start his training week 9. All Vince has to do, is throw/run for 5 touchdowns, in 8 games, and I break even.
     
  19. thunderkyss

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    Find two posts like that posted in the last week......
     
  20. texplayer2

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    Reggie will start contributing from day one and not only get a few touchdowns himself, but will help AJ,DC,EM, and DD get a few more. You are suggesting Vince takeover in week nine and start becoming a one man show again? Where ever Vince does land they better get him an offense around him, because the one man show approach will not translate to the Pros. The Comparison would have to be how many more TDs Carr will be able to engineer with the help of Bush vs. what Vince might be able to squeeze out of defensive mistakes without the extra option and in fewer games. (Team sport...Draft for the team aspect, not for individual stardom)
     

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