Rebuffed by Cardinals, Texans keep searching

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  1. Kaiser Toro

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    great news :yahoo:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3616539.html

    The Arizona Cardinals denied permission Thursday for the Texans to interview linebackers coach Frank Bush to become the team's co-defensive coordinator.

    Two of the NFL's most respected defensive coordinators, Jerry Gray (Buffalo) and Jim Bates (Green Bay), are still available.
     
  2. Jack Bauer

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    I'm not going to rejoice over Kubiak NOT being able to get the guys he wants.
     
  3. TexansCM

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    Many fans want the big name coordinators such as Gray, Bates and Sherman. What happens when the Texans, bottom of the league in many categories, start playing well under these guys. We will be looking for new coordinators in 1-3 years when the big names look for a head coaching gig.
     
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    And that's a bad thing?
     
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    What about Mike Tice?
     
  6. Kaiser Toro

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    Double dog ditto.
     
  7. Runner

    Runner Hubcap Diamond Staff Member

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    It seems all silver clouds have a dark lining.
     
  8. Porky

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    Ya, you're right. It's much better to have lousy assistants so the Texans will be bad and nobody will want to hire them. That sounds like a plan. :redtowel:
     


  9. edo783

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    I have concerns with bringing in a HC that was fired. Could have attitute problems (not real likely), could work internally to undermine the new coach so they can ride in to the resque (See pendry with Palmer), may not be willing to follow the plan etc. Also, there are likely problems bring in a guy who tried out for you position and you now ask him to work for you. All issues that can come into the fray. I like the idea that Kubes is bring in a younger set of coaches. I think they will relate well with the young players and they will be aggresive and players would much rather play aggressively rather than the passive crud we have been playing, so that would bring up enthusiasim (something that went south on us IMO). Saying all that, there is a LOT to be said for having a couple of guys with top level experience to help guide the young coaches to develope into HC type material. I think Sherman is a guy that could work in that kind of inviroment, not sure how Bates and Grey would feel about it.
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    :redtowel: It seems Kubiak had his own ideas about a duel DC position , it just did'nt work out . As long as Gray or Bates don't feel snubbed then we should get one of them .

    I've heard the Texans were really impressed with Gray as a head coaching canidate , so maybe he likes things here also . If not then get Bates . If you can't get Bates or Gray then what ?

    When Bum was the Coach of the Oilers , he assembled the best coaching staff Houston's ever scene . Three coaches off the top of my head went on to be HCs ( Joe Bugel , Ritchie Pettibone , Wade Phillips ) .
     
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    Someone like Sherman got screwed out of GB. Because Brett Favre couldn't stop throwing INTs, Sherman got shafted. I think Sherman could be great for this team.
     
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    FILO_girl I'm not here

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    Oh heck yea! Anyone heard anything else on Sherman coming here?:yahoo:
     
  13. Glacier

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    im not a big fan of bringing in the star powered coordinators.

    you want to build a team that will have consistency and continuity.

    if your coordinators are the flavor of the month, other teams will just pick them off in a year or two.

    better to have 1 head honcho calling the shots (kubiak) and a few younger or under appreciated guys here doing his will and working FOR him, rather than guys who have their own agendas and are out in a year or two for another coaching job.
     
  14. Grid

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    Normally I would agree Glacier but the DC position for us is a different circumstance imo.

    We need someone who can fix and run this defense.. pretty much by himself. Kubiak is an offensive guru..I trust him completely with the offense but when it comes to defense, id rather he didnt mess with it TOO much.

    For that reason.. I want an experienced and accomplished coach at DC.
     
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    Can you imagine Mike Sherman and Jerry Gray on our staff? That would be great.
     
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    That would be very PREMO indeed.
     
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    I dont really think we need Sherman. Personally..I want Kubiak running his offense.. not someone else running it, or changing it.
     
  18. Kaiser Toro

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    Yes but if Sherman comes in as Assistant HC, with a focus on the Oline, this well help in that synergy between the QB and Oline that is desperately needed. Audibles have always been a a challenge for us.
     
  19. tulexan

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    Audibles? Didn't we only have 1?
     
  20. Kaiser Toro

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    Precisely.
     

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