QB Vick should be protected...........

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    even though he commonly turns into a running back


    Andy Reid bothered by hits on Michael Vick
    Posted by Michael David Smith on December 3, 2010, 7:22 PM EST

     
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    Maybe if he took a QB slide once in a while, it might be worth discussing otherwise he's fair game until he's out of bounds.
     
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    REALLY!? :ok: :lol:
     
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    If he can't take it, he needs to stop running. It's football, not soccer. Hey, maybe we should complain that opposing Ds run full speed when Schaub is scrambling, and they should have to slow down....hop on one leg or something...
     
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    Shocked Reid said something that stupid.
     
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    If the Eagles play the Falcons in the Playoffs I predict Vick will rarely cross the line of scrimmage because the Falcons Defense WILL put the hurt on him given half the chance.

    Lots of bad blood remains.
     
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    Not what Reid is talking about. When Vick moves out, he is a runner. Fair game.
    He is talking about when Vick is in the pocket and is hit after the ball is gone or is being tackled for a sack. Someone Thursday night hit Vick on the leg on a sack. Second or third guy in on the tackle. Reid is saying that other QBS would get a call on this under the rules they play by today. Vick should also get that call.
     
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    You could say that for some non-call plays on Schaub...........or for that matter on every QB. Keep in mind that Vick will look like a rag doll when solidly legally hit, simply because of his size as a QB.........he's only 6' 215# dripping wet.:roast:
     
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    If you're referring to the hit to his quad that hobbled him a bit, it was Ok0ye while Vick still had the ball and was still scrambling behind the LOS. He did not take Vick down, so didn't get credit for the sack. Vick's fair game in those situations. And it wasn't a hit below the knee; it was right on his thigh pad.
     
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    In addition to what others said above, Vick places himself in jeopardy more than other QB's and it has to be accounted for. He has a habit of ducking under tackles. He shouldn't be given a flag for ducking into contact with his head. He does present a fairly unique balancing issue for the referees.
     
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    Seriously, how much more emasculated can the NFL get when even the coaches start talking about "they're hitting too hard!!!"?
     
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    Ok, guys. Let me try to explain what Reid is talking about.
    If you go back to the first Eagle's play, a lineman hit Vick after the ball was gone. Clean hit in my opinion, by if the QB is named Manning or Brady, is something called in the way the game is called today?
    Reid said he is taking examples to the league to look at. I have no idea which plays or from what game, but I think Reid is a stand- up guy and thinks he has a case.
    In other words, call it the same for all the QBS.

    Or is Reid playing mind games with Ware twice, Allen of Minn., and the Giants d line coming in the last 4 games? Get an edge to get the league to get the refs to look closer.

    I got back to the days where in pro football there was no such thing as not hitting a QB. They were considered fair game because they were on the field. Could be blocked after the pass was gone. Miss those days, to tell the truth, but can understand the reasons for the rule changes.

    In my personal view in this, I think Reid should talk the the O line in doing a better job keeping people off Vick. Would save a trip to New York
     
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    No, what Reid is saying is "We didn't have a prayer until Kolb got replaced by Vick. So, now that we're rolling really well...please please please don't let Vick suffer the tough hits."

    Vick, IMO, has yanked Reid's butt out of the fire. And I don't think the Eagles can honestly say they knew that Vick would turn out to help them THIS much.

    Now, Reid is trying to earn the sympathy vote that he thinks will help keep this "good thing" going.

    The Texans don't play dirty. I saw zero dirty plays by our team. Reid is a tool.
     
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    If Vixk Nees special Treatment then every stinking Horse back Rider needs to stay off of horses cause Superman broke his neck, Michael Vick is a QB/RB
     
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    If Vick was interested in more protection, then he probably wouldn't have gotten herpes in college.
     
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    Well that's just dumb.

    Hey Reid guess what? We just moved Arian Foster to our backup QB spot. He's a threat with his legs so we run him a lot... but now you can't hit him like he's a RB because he's not... he's a QB.
     

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