Pro Day performances

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  1. Goatcheese

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    A lot of the pro day numbers that are comming in seem to reinforce the view that the track at the combine was slower than the old Super Dome.

    Michael Johnson combine 4.75
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    Sean Smith Combine 4.53
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    Paul Kruger Combine 4.86
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    William Moore Combine 4.53
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    Rashad Jennings Combine 4.60
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    The Sooners have their Pro Day today(March 10).
     
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    Ohio St. Pro day info:

    http://blog.dispatch.com/buckeyesblog/2009/03/quickie_pro_day_update.shtml

    Other sources put Wells 2 40 times at 4.39, and 4.38. Interesting that this was on field turf, and not a rubber track as some sources had suggested. Jenkins sub 4.5 should be enough to dispel most of the FS talk about him. Laurinaitis may have stopped his free fall out of day 1 with his adequate time.
     
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    times are relative to the conditions, its like US Open conditions compared to a regular tour event scores go higher, hence the same with times. the important thing is how they relate to each other under the same conditions. I you just take the combine numbers @ Lucas adjust for the slow track & take off one tenth of a sec. its gonna be more in line with peoples expectations. Deion Sanders knew immediately something was wrong with the times because he had worked with the corners & knew they had some 4.3 runners yet nobody could crack 4.4 :jogger:
     
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    Umm.. so does this mean we're going to have a few receivers run 4.2 lows? Heyward-Bey really ran a 4.30 on a slow surface?
     
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    In general most people run better at their pro day. Probably because coaches can set things up the way the player wants (wind, etc.). Rarely does someone shart the bed at a pro day.
     
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    Deon reportedly ran a 4.19 don't see why thats not in the realm of human possiblity?
     
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    I know it's not impossible, but if the track really was slow at the combine that means that we could have had 4 receivers run 4.2 40's. When is the last time something like that happened?
     


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    Unless I am mistaken, these players will be running on grass when playing in NFL games. Grass is softer than the track at the combine, so the combine track is probably a better proxy for an NFL field than the tracks that the universities are prepping for their pro days.

    Just saying.
     
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    Maybin runs 4.58 40 at Penn Pro day.

    There are many different kinds of grass, hard/soft fieldturf, and astroturf used in the NFL. The length of the grass can also make a huge difference within the same kind of grass. Some are faster than Indies fieldturf, while some are slower.

    The reason it's important to note a slow track at the new home of the combine vs the old home is so you can accurately compare this years prospects to last years. Once you adjust for the difference this is no longer a really slow class as some draftniks had initially freaked out over.
     
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    Carl Landry this week ran several blocks at 2.0 speed with a bullet in his leg. It just takes incentative.
     
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    UCONN had it's pro day today

    Donald Brown: 17 Reps

    Darius Butler: ran a 4.38 40-yard dash

    Will Beatty: 30 reps

    Cody Brown: 36 inch vertical

    Those are the main guys and then here are a couple of other guys who could get drafted in the later rounds:

    DE Julius Williams: 41 inch vertical, 36 Reps
    S Dahna Delston: 20 reps, 36 inch vertical, 4.45 vertical
     
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    Who is this Julius Williams and what is his deal?
     
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    He was the starting end opposite Cody Brown for UCONN. Definitely played in Brown's shadow but was very good as a pass rusher and was good against the run (though his body seems more fit as a 3-4 OLB). 6 sacks and 41 tackles his senior season and missed the combine by one vote. He seemed to be a late 5th-6th round pick but I don't think anyone expected a workout like that from him so I don't know where his stock is now.
     
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    FWIW, on 1560 they were talking to someone on the ground at the combine - I think it was Michael Lombardi or Alonzo Highsmith or someone - who said that since the field was so new it was pretty inconsistent, and you would have one player run on a good surface to have the next run on a torn up/crappy surface.

    I don't know if those inconsistencies affected groups (by position) or if it was inconsistent from one player to the next.

    But, that might be something to consider when viewing these times.
     
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    Just keep it in perspective. The guy could have arms down to his feet. If they measure the player's vertical jump from his height to the apex, like most folks/entities do, then they are not taking into consideration arm length.

    But yeah, dayumm on those two measurements, because if he has long arms and can throw up 36 reps then he is a workout warrior. :)
     
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    The surface at OSU is notoriously fast. Remember Maurice Clarett ran fast there after burning a 4.8/4.9 at the combine. Not saying these guys numbers are flawed in any way, just pointing it out.
     

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