Prevent Defense ????Friend or Foe????

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    I am guardedly happy with the Texans' last win. But I have to say that I began feeling very uncomfortable beginning in the 4th Q. By no means had we put the Jags "away" by then. Our D up to then was looking quite "alive" with their heretofore uncharacteristic bull rushes on the QB. Then all of a sudden, I began noticing that we were beginning to give up hefty chunks of yardage, and noticed that the D game plan turned around 180 degrees. Someone decided to go into 3 down linemen mode with return to an anemic rush of only 3 players. There appeared to be no pressure on the QB. I can't help feeling lucky that the Jags for whatever reason just layed down........seemingly more interested in taking a shower than winning a game.

    I'd be interested in others' view on my observation.
     
  2. bigbrewster2000

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    Im right here with you on this. I dont understand why any team would employ this defense the wyathat the Texans did the other night. The Prevent defense is a defense that is great when you are defending against the deep pass at the very end of the game, say less than 3 minutes left and up by 2 or 3 TD's. It is way to easy to pick apart by attacking the holes in the zones. I am a big proponent for staying aggresive. You an always play your safties a little deeper and play with a little bit bigger cusion with the corners and get better results.
     
  3. PapaL

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    IMO whichever page has the Prevent on it should be ripped out, burned and the ashes spread over a cow patty field in Vietnam.
     
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    Spot on....

    I hate the "Prevent Defense". You know the old saying; "the only thing it prevents, is you from winning the game"..

    I'm more of a Bum Phillips guy, "You dance with the one that brung ya".
     
  5. HOU-TEX

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    FOE!!!!!

    I've cringed watching the prevent ever since a certain playoff game in 1993.

    I hate it!!
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  6. Double Barrel

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    I agree with foe. I hate the prevent D. 35-3 is all I have to say about it.
     
  7. gtexan02

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    The Jags didn't score their first touchdown until there was 2 minutes left in the game. UP until that point, we were winning by 20 points.

    The prevent defense causes teams to use up a lot of time moving the ball.

    When you've got a team that gets beat deep a lot, aka The Texans, its not worth the risk of blitzing 5 and only dropping back 6 guys against a lot of receivers.

    THink about it like this:
    The Texans went into prevent mode with over 5 minutes left. The Jags took 3 minutes to score their first TD, giving us the ball back with 2 minutes left and still holding on to a 13 point lead.

    If we rush 5 and Jones comes down with a long one, we may end up with a 13 point lead with over 4minutes left. Thats a big difference, especially when the Jags are already low on timeouts

    PS: Whats with all the q?marks in the title. 8???????? :)
     
  8. PapaL

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    PS
    We should also do this to our version of the Wildcat.
     
  9. El Tejano

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    The arguments I have with the prevent in this particular game are:

    1.You know Jville wouldn't have led up on us.

    2.You are trying to teach your very young defense about being aggressive. That means you need to tell this team that at no point is giving up a TD a good thing. Players have fun with that kind of mentality. It could've done wonders in confidence to know you haven't given up a TD in two games.
     
  10. Mr. White

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    One thing's for sure.........we don't see it very often.
     
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    And how many minutes had the Jags gone without a TD when we weren't playing prevent?...
     
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    Any fan of Houston football shouldn't have to ask if the prevent is a friend or foe.
     
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    Instead of "prevent", how about "wussyass" or "Smith uncover 2".
     
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    Neg. reps to both y'all. I think the point could have been made without brining up that abomination. Thanks guys, now I have to go throw up and start breaking stuff. ;)
     
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    LOL! It is the first thing I think of when I hear the term "prevent defense". That is lesson no. 1 about that particular scheme, and no other examples are required. That was a great defensive unit back then, and no way should they have been tagged with that letdown. The coaching failed them (and us) miserably.

    I agree with El Tejano's above points. Teach our defense how to close games! I could care less if someone wants to accuse us of running up the score.

    It would probably be the first time we'd be accused of it anyway . :victory: <--humorous intent
     
  16. CloakNNNdagger

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    The friend or foe question was rhetorical on my part. The Texans until these last two games have appeared to be in nonagressive prevent D......with the "protection" of a torn prophylactic.:tiphat:

    It must be my filler instead of "uh" or "umm.":backsout:
     
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    I would be willing to bet that offenses score more quickly against prevent defenses than they do against a defense that plays their normal scheme in that same situation...
     
  18. CloakNNNdagger

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    That brings us full circle to who made the decision to return to defense mediocrity in the 4th Q? Could Smith have made that call without Kubiak's blessing..........I don't think so......
     
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    Our franchise is so tight-lipped about the hierarchy and who/what/when/how of the decision making process that I am truly clueless who the responsibility really falls to. Different teams have different structures, so there is no telling how much influence Kubiak has in the play-to-play decisions during the game.
     
  20. HOU-TEX

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    Yeppers.

    Instead of the name "prevent defense", they should've named it the "93 Oilers defense". It's the first damn thing I think of after noticing a prevent scheme. Bastages!
     

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