Post Draft 53 Man Roster Projection

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  1. TheRealJoker

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    Alright folks... we've got a pretty good idea who will be going to training camp. Barring any unforeseen cuts prior to the season starting lets post our 53 man roster projections. Full name of UDFA or lesser known players we've picked up since season ended:

    Offense: 25
    QB: Watson, Weeden, Webb (keeping 3 QBs because Webb can play ST)
    RB: Miller, Terry Swanson, Blue
    FB: Prosch
    WR: Hopkins, Fuller, Coutee, Ellington, Vyncint Smith
    TE: Griffin, Akins, Lengel
    OT: Davenport, Henderson, Rankin, Jones-Smith
    OG: Fulton, Allen, Kelemete, Fuller
    OC: Martin, Mancz

    Defense: 25
    ID: Watt, Reader, Covington, Watkins, Dunn, Heath
    ED: Clowney, Mercilus, Scarlett, Ejiofor
    LB: McKinney, Cunningham, Cole, Kalambayi, Peters
    CB: Colvin, Johnson, Joseph, Jackson, Bademosi, Kelly
    S: Mathieu, Hal, Reid, Decoud

    Specialists: 3
    P: Lechler
    K: Fairbairn
    LS: Weeks

    PUP: Foreman, Ervin, if Ejiofor starts season on PUP due to shoulder then substitute Ufomba Kamalu in his place.

    Notable cuts:

    Braxton Miller - Team will not be carrying 3 slot WRs. Need to cover outside WR depth so Vyncint Smith will beat out Miller. Ellington and Coutee are more polished options in the slot. I actually think Jester Weah or Vyncint Smith will make the team as the first outside WR off the ben. Loser goes to practice squad. Team keeps 6 WRs if best case scenario happens and they both play too well in preseason to stash either on the practice squad.

    Chris Thompson - He's a heck of a ST player but I just can't find a spot for him on the roster this year with the signing of Johnson Bademosi as ST ace, Webb as 3rd QB and ability to play ST and Coutee/Ellington in the mix for returns. Again, maybe he can prove himself indispensable again and force us to keep 9 OL or drop down to 2 QBs. But he doesn't do enough as a WR to warrant carrying at the expense of OL depth or only having 2 QBs.

    Jordan Thomas - I think Lengel will be ahead of him as the Y TE given his 2 years NFL experience. I think Thomas will spend his rookie year on PS learning the position. He was my least favorite draft pick and the one I feel has the least chance to make the team. I hope he proves me wrong because i'm not all that thrilled about Lengel either. Very good chance this position gets filled by a cut from another team.

    Ufomba Kamalu - I think Ejiofor beats him out. But as stated earlier if Edge has to start season on PUP due to his shoulder surgery then Kamalu will make the roster.

    Corey Moore - I think Decoud will have the advantage given his ability to play CB if needed. That added versatility may actually make the TC battle between Moore and Jermaine Kelly for the 10th DB spot on the roster and will come down to ST.

    Eddie Pleasant - Just no room for him now with the addition of Justin Reid and Honey Badger along with Decoud having versatility to play CB/S.
     
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    Decoud will have to beat out Drummond and Corey Moore IMO. That could happen but it's wait and see for me.
     
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    I don't have a comment yet on the 53 other than to say Prosch doesn't have a role on this team. He'll probably be kept, and I love the fullback position, but it's a wasted spot - better used for an extra secondary player.
     
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    Interesting exercise to figure out optimal roster building. Team has only carried 2 QBs in the past because it makes those tough cuts at the end of preseason a little easier being able to carry an extra WR or TE or RB but I don't think we'll go that route this season given Webb's ability to contribute on ST and our well documented bad luck with QB health.

    On the other side of the ball I think team has to keep 10 DBs because that weakness is the easiest for teams to exploit when injuries pile up and team has to sign street FAs who are both not talented enough to be on an NFL roster and not well versed enough in the scheme to avoid coverage breakdowns/miscommunication. We saw that in the Patriots game in particular last season when we had Johnathan Banks signed off the street playing the majority of the game against TB12 and company. If we get hit with injuries on the back end I want to give team best chance possible it's at least someone that knows the playbook.

    Positions I am most concerned about heading into season:

    RB: I feel really good about Swanson. I think he is a similar player to Dalvin Cook and will end up being a UDFA steal. But I admit that any UDFA being a steal is a long shot. So on paper this position is thin. I don't consider Lamar Miller a bellcow back, Blue is a glue guy that can get you through a game and Foreman is not likely to be the explosive bellcow to be we drafted when he returns from injury. Gosh I really hope Swanson turns out to be Dalvin Cook :)

    TE: I think we've got some good receivers but no true bonafide Y TE. I really like Akins as the "Aaron Hernandez" on this offense but we may have to wait until next year when we have a 1st and two 2nd round picks to find the "Gronk" to pair him with... I really hope we find a diamond in the rough on blocking TEs. Would have much preferred Ryan Izzo over Jordan Thomas in the draft but hope i'm wrong and he turns out to be the player he was drafted to be.

    Positions I feel surprisingly good about:

    WR: We are going to have tough cuts at this position. Hopkins and Fuller are entrenched as starters. We just spent a 4th on Coutee. Ellington is talented enough to contribute to an NFL team. If Braxton Miller finally has the lightbulb go off for him this may be a situation where the team can move a player for a draft pick or another player competing for a roster spot at a position where we are thin (TE) if they play well in preseason. Add the ST ace Chris Thompson and the UDFA WRs I really like (Vyncint Smith and Jester Weah) and I think this position will be extremely competitive for a roster spot.

    interior OL: We have a ton of guys who can perform capably on the interior. An argument can be made to only carry 3 OTs because Kelemete/Allen have OT versatility. However, I really like the potential of Jaryd Jones-Smith and think he has starting potential at RT before his rookie contract ends. And plus i'd like to carry 10 OL just to make sure we have the best chance of finding 5 guys that can protect DW4.

    Defense: I think the front 7 spots are for the most part spoken for... the starters are entrenched and the one weakness (edge depth) was addressed in the draft with players that are highly unlikely to be beaten out by what is left on the roster. The secondary is also entrenched with high dollar FA acquisitions, premium draft picks and long term starters. This defense will be elite and will have plenty of supporting cast types if our studs Watt/Clowney/Mercilus all stay healthy and play how they are capable. The CB position is lacking a true #1 now that Jo Jo is another year older. But if the pass rush performs as it should on paper along with the improved safety play we will see someone perform like a #1 CB. Whether that is Colvin or K Jo or both (that would be cool!) remains to be seen.
     
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    I understand the frustration on Prosch. My only comment would be who takes his place? Stephen Anderson? Can Blue play FB if needed?
     
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    I think Decoud's positional versatility makes him the favorite but it could come down to who is decisively better on ST. One thing is for sure, I see Eddie Pleasant on the outside looking in.
     
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    Nobody/anybody. I forget the number, but we used a true fullback last year a very paltry number of times. Prosch's few offensive snaps came as part of a shotgun split if I remember right, and was almost entire pass protection. He really didn't do anything on offense that couldn't be accomplished by others. Use a backup DT/OL in short yardage and a TE in backfield shotgun ... there, Prosch's entire role on offense is accounted for. Don't get me wrong, I'm very old school and have a strong favor towards offenses that can use the fullback's potential. We don't, and we won't, so it's a wasted position.
     
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    Really interested in what this offense will look like. Very well could be like you said no FB. Just am so conditioned to having a FB on a roster. But maybe that gets replaced by another move TE? Like Stephen Anderson or MyCole Pruitt.
     
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    On offense I think Anderson makes it and Prosch is cut. Swanson is cut and a Vet RB is added at cut down date.

    Defense- Pleasant make it over Kelly.

    BTW- Great job
     
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    So no FB? Curious why?
     


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    I think one of the TE's or LB's will be playing FB when one is needed. Like Vrabel did with the Pats.

    I also think Thomas makes the PS and plays on the 53 at some point next season.
     
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    Again I'm not going to try to predict anything, but I think this would be a better setting. Anderson has time in the system and is flexible, Prosch as I said is player without a position.
     
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    Thanks. There is going to be quite the battle for those final 5 or so roster spots. I have faith in Terry Swanson though. I think he makes this team! If they add a vet it's because they want to carry 4 RBs not because he isn't one of the 53 best players on the team.
     
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    Only issue with Anderson is he's just a jumbo WR who offers nothing as a blocker. The UDFA WRs Weah and Smith actually do appear to be solid blockers. Weah especially...

    I think if Prosch is cut maybe they try Pruitt in that spot over Anderson.

    Looks like what we've nailed down early in the process is nobody really "wants" Prosch on the team!
     
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    PS projection because I can't sleep and obviously think too much about the Texans:

    TE: Jordan Thomas
    WR: Jester Weah, Chris Thompson
    OL: Chad Slade, Anthony Coyle
    LB: Latroy Lewis, Davin Bellamy
    CB: Dee Virgin
     
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    I'm actually more excited about 4 UDFAs we brought in: Terry Swanson, Jaryd Jones-Smith, Vyncint Smith and Jester Weah

    than I am about 6th round pick Jordan Thomas and 7th rounder Jermaine Kelly. This isn't so much me "hating the picks" but me loving what the team was able to do in the "8th round" this year. I think all 4 of those UDFAs have a legitimate shot at making the team, maybe even being positive contributors their rookie year like Dylan Cole last season.
     
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    Terry Swanson will make the team as well be the steal.

     
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    I'm not sure how far ahead Lengel may be from Thomas after full OTAs and TC. Lengel has only taken a handful of snaps while with the Pats in Dec 2016. His claim to fame was that the first of his 2 receptions that year was a TD from Brady. He played mostly STs in his limited usage. After being waived with an injury settlement following hand surgery, he took one snap late Oct last year with the Browns who picked him up.

    When in college where he did get some play, he suffered a season-ending knee injury in the 2012 opener. The following year, he suffered another season-ending knee injury 2 games into the season.........a re-injury to the same knee..............both ACL ruptures.

    I don't see Lengel as a clear cut winner. Both have potential. It will be up to each of them to prove their individual value to the team in the upcoming months.
     
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    Yikes... well at least we’ve identified the most glaring weakness on the roster! Replace Lengel with another team’s cut to be named later!
     
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    The Texans position on the waiver wire will allow them to find young veterans for the back end of the roster.

    I think the Texans keep 4 RBs initially, and 9 O-linemen on the 53 man roster due to the versatility of Kelemete and Rankin. I also think Allen loses a spot after failing to win a starting job. The Texans may get a late pick for Allen in camp.

    I don't think the Texans will be able to expose Weah and Smith to the waiver wire after the preseason, and Ellington will be the odd man out.

    Peters doesn't show enough on defense to keep as a special teams only. The Texans will find a better all around ILB on the waiver wire.

    Kelly is the 53rd man on the roster, and could be replaced by Cory Moore if Decoud outplays Kelly at CB.

    Kareem Jackson would be my surprise cut if Kevin Johnson steps up.

    I also think the Texans bring in one more vet QB,either during camp or after cuts, making Webb vulnerable.
     
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