Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by drs23, Nov 25, 2012.
For a hit on Stafford that he wasn't flagged for.
So defensive players are supposed to over come physics now? Oh, OK.
I want the people who decide whether a person should be fined suit up and take hits at a QB who is throwing the ball at receivers. When Suh dragged Schaub to the ground way worse than what Watt did...
look at the picture at the top of the page ... is that not the very definition of a textbook tackle?
The busybody control freaks in charge of the NFL are doing their level best to ruin the game.
I doubt JJ gets fined but I bet Crick will for when he hit Stafford in the back of his helmet in the third quarter at around 13:42
meh, after what the Lions were doing to Schaub Im glad we laid into Stafford and pushed the limits, if only our oline would defend matts honor after he brutally gets taken out, thats the one thing I miss about Winston
So if your helmet accidentally slides up and makes slight contact with the QB's head you get fined. If you kick a guy in the head, oh well its all good, no fine.
thats what i'm saying, Arent you supposed to let up once the QB has thrown the ball ?
If they don't fine Suh for that drag down of Schaub I'd be upset.
That's a fine for the kick to the gnads & a fine for the calf roping.
That's exactly what I said. Everything looks right. Brought is arms up from underneath, hit him in the chest, everything looked good. If the whole incidental contact with any part of the helmet of the QB is the case, you are going to see a lot more QB's lowering their head to touch their face mask to touch a defenders helmet to draw the 15 yards. It's going to turn into the whole ripping off the helmet thing in NCAA to make a player sit out a play...
JJ made every attempt possible to wrap up. His arms are the key. He hit stafford square in the chest. Its not his fault he's a big dude. IF he gets fined, it will be an absolute mistake by the NFL
It doesn't matter how the Lion's were playing, it was a textbook tackle. Arms open on both sides with your face in the opponents chest, perfect.
On a side note, lot's of butt hurt in the comments section from Lions fans, LOL! Well worth the read.
I just don't enjoy the NFL as much anymore because of stuff like this. If Watt is fined it will be even more reason for me to watch less NFL football.
It's no money out of my pocket, but I just don't like the way the NFL is trying to change how the game is played.
I'm all for fining for dirty hits and intentional stuff.....
But fining for incidental contact is ridiculous. I don't like seeing big hits and wondering if 1) I'll see flags 2) If the player will be fined or suspended
i agree rey, it's discouraging that on every incomplete pass the defenders and fans all start scanning the field looking for a flag, and it's the same now on hitting the quarterback. i hate feeling like i have to search for the flag anytime the defense does something exciting - big hits, sacks, pass defensed. maybe i'm just not part of the fantasy/college spread offense that the NFL is targeting.
I've seen many a hit on the QB where I never looked for a flag or thought there may be a fine associated with it. But after seeing that hit, I was surprised there was no flag. It looked like a good hit. Didn't look like Jj Watt tried to do anything malicious, but it was clear that Watt's head hit Stafford in the chin.
I think some of these calls are ridiculous. Like an arm inadvertently brushed a QB's helmet, Or some of these where the defender did not have time to let up.
But I have to say I agree with the intent of protecting players & overall the approach they are going about doing it. It's not every head to head hit that is deemed illegal. It is on defenseless players & I think a QB who keeps his eyes down field & does not look at the pass rush is as defensless as you can get.
I think there is still some fine tuning that needs to be done. I wouldn't fine Watt for that hit. But if he has another one like that, then he'll get fined. But that's me. If the league decides to fine him, then it is what it is.
At the same time, if the league does not fine Suh for that drag down calf-roping he did, then I'd have to question the integrity of the league & if their true motives are in fact the safety of the players & not simply cya
I know I've seen members of this board complain there was no fine handed out when Schaub was hit the same way.
That's no way there should be a penalty or fine on that hit. The impact of Watt's hit on the chest causes Stafford's facemask to move toward Watt's helmet.
Tailgbue is sissy up the game.
That may very well save him.
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