Playoffs?

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  1. TheTim5125

    TheTim5125 Veteran

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    Ok probably not but we are mathmatically still in it... The way I see it if Denver, Buffalo, and the Jags, and Baltimore lose out, and we win out we would some how have the Tie breaker for that group... can some one shed some light on this. We are still in the hunt....
     
  2. utahmark

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    we are not ready to play in a playoff game. give em another year.
     
  3. TheTim5125

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    I know we aren't ready but we could get in if the a few AFC teams collapse and we win out.
     
  4. OzzO

    OzzO .. and then?

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    I think we're out. From the "still a chance" scenarios seen today - never saw the Texans. Jags were just holding on along with the Bills and one other team that I forget.
     
  5. ArlingtonTexan

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    I think if Ravens win tonight that even the math goes out the window because the jets and Ravens both would have too many wins to get back to the 8-8 mark.
     
  6. TheTim5125

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    Denvers opponents

    Denver at Tennessee:Volek has been playing well
    Indianapolis at Denver:IDK if Indy will still be playing for seed.

    Jaguars opponents

    Houston at Jacksonville:tough game for us at least we should play the spoiler
    Jacksonville at Oakland: Oakland played well but Jacksonville is the favorite

    Baltimore opponents

    Baltimore at Pittsburgh:Pittsburgh needs homefield
    Miami at Baltimore: Miami has been playing better.

    Bills opponents

    Buffalo at San Francisco: Bills should win
    Pittsburgh at Buffalo: Pitt wants homefield


    I'm just saying... it could happen.. highly unlikely but could happen
     
  7. LiveForTheGame

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    It may be able to happen, but it won't. Also, I don't want the Texans to make it this season. I want them to succeed, but losing big in the first round isn't my idea of success just because they made the playoffs. Especially with the terrible middle portion of the season. They aren't a playoff team yet.
     
  8. TexanBacker93

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    I believe it's because when multiple teams tie for a wild card spot and they haven't all played each other an even number of times they will go to conference record. If Houston wins out they will have a 7-5 conference record. If Denver, the Ravens, the Jags, and the Bills lose out they will all have worse conference records. Denver could do it, but I don't think the others will lose 2 each. Still, it's nice to still be "involved" this late in the season.
     


  9. Speedy

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    If I'm understanding the tie-breaking procedures correctly, the Texans make the playoffs if:

    Texans win final 2 games

    and

    Buffalo, Baltimore, Denver and Jacksonville all lose their remaining games

    and

    Kansas City wins their final 2 games

    and

    Cincinnati loses at least one.
     
  10. HoustonFan

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    Sounds about right to me.

    Hey but anything can happen in a football game, right? Aside from that, I think for the Texans to be true contenders for and in the playoffs is something we'll have no choice but to wait until next year for. They can go no place but up which is what I see - improved another game from last season. So let's keep the party going Texans, finsh this season up strong!!!!!
     
  11. TheTim5125

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    Lets just spoil the Jaguars playoff hopes
     
  12. HJam72

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    Let's shoot for #2 in our division and forget about play-offs. We're not ready for play-offs yet, anyway.
     
  13. TheOgre

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    I don't think that is correct. I don't see where KC or Cincy effects our playoff chances.

    Lets assume that Baltimore, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Denver and Houston are all tied at 8-8.

    3+ way Tiebreakers

    1. Record

    2 Sweeps
    a. Did anyone sweep all of the teams in the tiebreaker? No
    b. Did anyone lose to all of the teams in the tiebreaker (eliminating themselves in the process)? No

    Conference Records
    Team/Record/Conf. Record
    Houston 8-8 7-5
    Balt. 8-8 5-7
    Buffalo 8-8 5-7
    Denver 8-8 5-7
    Jack. 8-8 5-7
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    KC 8-8 7-5
    Cinci 8-8 4-8

    If KC loses a game, then we have the best conference record and would advance. If KC wins both games, then we would check tiebreakers with KC (since both are 7-5 in the conference) to determine who would advance. Since we beat them, we would go.

    It is my understanding that we need Balt., Buffalo, Denver, and Jacksonville to lose them all and for us to win out.
     
  14. dan7

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    While still mathematically possibly this season, I'd like to think that realistically the playoffs are something the Texans should aim for next season.
     
  15. TheTim5125

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    as much as I want to be in the playoffs I don't feel that we are ready.
     
  16. SBTexans08

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    Let's just win the next two games. You have to give the Jags credit for last night's game......they'll be tough in their home field especially after being humbled by the Texans earlier this season....hehe!!
     
  17. Double Barrel

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    I'd be REALLY happy ending the season with an 8-8 record and just missing the playoffs.

    I don't think this team is up to the task of a playoff game, and it would be a much more optimistic ending to have an 8-8 record and just miss the playoffs, than ending the season in a blowout.
     
  18. Speedy

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    Correction....I think.

    KC doesn't need to win out, however if they did we would still be in because the 1st tie-breaker with multiple teams for a wild card is Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. First division tie-breaker is Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).

    Houston would eliminate Jags because they would have swept them. KC would eliminate Denver on better division record.

    Now we have Buffalo, Baltimore, Houston, and KC. 2nd tie-breaker 3 or more teams for wild card is Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.) Hoston didn't play Buffalo or Baltimore. This step does not apply. Step 3 is Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference. Houston and KC would both be 7-5 elimminating Buffalo and Baltimore, both 5-7. Now the tie-breaker reverts to the 2 team formula. 1st tiebreaker is Head-to-head, if applicable. Houston beats KC in week 3, Houston wins the wild card.

    So.....my previous post is indeed incorrect. It doesn't matter what KC or Cincinnati does.

    The TEXANS are in the playoffs if:

    they win their remaining games

    AND

    Baltimore, Buffalo, Denver, and Jacksonville ALL lose their remaining games.


    Whew!!!!

    Somebody else can figure out the odds of that happening.
     
  19. gwallaia

    gwallaia Moderator Staff Member

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    Here's the math. There is no way in hell the Texans are going to the playoffs this season.

    Maybe next season.
     
  20. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    Crazy people.

    No playoffs for Xmas.

    Just gimme 8-8!
     

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