Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by YellerLotYeller, Sep 10, 2007.
Wow, they did this lst year in Green Bay....
lame. i lost a bit of respect for the pats.
Yeah, this kind of thing is starting to look bad for them.
HUGE deal. If they were using video cameras to spy on opposing coaches you can expect a SEVERE draft pick penalty possibly a 1st Rounder.
Who would get the pick? The Jets? LT's claims last year after that playoff game are coming true.
they would forfeit the pick. no compensation for the Jets.
if they are cheating against the jets, a team they could clearly beat without cheating, then they are a bunch of idiots.
If this is true, they lose a lot of credibility within the league and stand a huge chance of isolating "fans" like me who aren't die hard Patriots fans, just an average joe who enjoys watching them play now and then. They have a good team, no need to resort to classless actions such as that, but I shall wait to judge until all the facts are set straight.
i as have always told ppl and still will say the pats have no class
Read further into the story.. the SAME cameraman also had his camera and film taken away from him for doing the same thing at the Green Bay game last year.
Another thing-- the story talks about radio issues... at the Buffalo-New England game last year, the Buffalo coaches complained of "interference" in their link from the coaches box to the sideline last year..
Couldthe Pats been tapping the links?
OK please explain to me how the Patriots could be messing with the communication between the coaches box and the field in the Meadowlands of all places. If it was Foxboro I might be able to see it but at someone elses stadium?
Sounds like the jets are making excuses on this one.
Maybe making an excuse.... but it isn't difficult to jam the radio frequency that goes from the Box direct to the quarterback's helmet.
If the coaches are in close adjoining boxes, all you have to have is a something transmitting on a very close frequency.
I heard they were playing with RC cars in the coaches box.
If there is any validity to this, the Commissioner better throw the book at the Pats.
Any hand slaps will have other teams following suit.
They were simply using the Patriot Act...oh wait that wasn't made for their use. Oops. Sorry Belichick.
Yes, they're truly a classless organization, top to bottom.
Thing is, we may want to wait until the NFL makes an announcement of some kind on this one, no?
Last year, the Pats were accused of the same thing in Green Bay. Nothing happened as a result. This whole thing was instigated by members of the NY Jets security staff. The league has had the tapes for two days and haven't levied any punishment yet. Doesn't that tell you something?
And even if they are guilty, my understanding is that the penalty is forfeiting a mid or low-round draft pick. Usually the sentence serves the crime -- so the fact that there are no suspensions or fines involved should tell you how the league feels about this sort of "egregious" offense. All teams do it in one way, shape, or form. The Pats might have gotten caught. Simple as that.
It's the American way these days. Do it until you get caught and then cry like a baby that the other guys are doing it.
This kind of thing disgusts me.
More interesting reading on the Pats' "Get Smart" antics....
"For a window into the Patriots' tactics, multiple Packers sources provided a fascinating account of what happened in the 35-0 victory last Nov. 19. A man identifying himself as a Patriots employee asked a security guard if he could shoot footage of Lambeau Field before the game, and permission was granted. Just before the game, he requested to stay on the sidelines to record quarterback Tom Brady for the coaching staff. However, he was soon spotted filming the Packers defense and signaling Patriots coaches. A member of the Packers security staff witnessed the exchange and asked him to leave. He retreated to the tunnel, continued filming, and appeared to be communicating with the coaches via hand signals before being escorted off the field. Asked why the Patriots weren't reported, a Packers executive suggested there was a code of silence regarding such matters, particularly after a blowout. "It bothers you that it's cheating," he said, "but it's not the reason they kicked our (butt)." It's interesting to note a pair of comments after that game. The first came from Packers corner Al Harris, who praised the Patriots coaching staff. "It's almost like they knew what we were doing, you know?" he said. "You have to tip your hat to them. They ran plays designed for us. They ran plays that made us check out of some things. I don't know who calls their plays, but Belichick is pretty good. Honestly, he's pretty good."
I guess my question is: How common is this really? Or do I want to know?
Sources: Goodell determines Pats broke rules by taping Jets' signals
Oh yeah, severe action is warrented. Take'em to the wood shed Goodell.
I cannot believe this. Wow, what an embarassment for the Patriots, their coaches, and their fans.
The NFL should immediately suspend Bellicheck for the season, and make them forfeit their first game. It should go on the schedule as a tie with the Jets
If swinging games by being a ref is lifelong banning
And if simply BETTING on games is a life long ban
Then shouldn't intercepting and relaying all the signals of the opponents, which is clearly cheating, be similarly punnished??
If I was a Jets fan, I would be PISSED OFF
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