Owners to meet to debate 18-game season

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    The 18-game season season may have a good deal to do with if we have a 2011 season or not. Money is a concern on the part of owners and players. But injuries seem to be a concern mostly on the part of the players. Fans are no factor beyond their willingness to contribute to the "kitty."

    Since NFL season ticket holders pay full price for all 10 home games, including preseason games, revenues won't change there. But there would be an inevitable increase in non season ticket holder ticket sales bumping the revenues. Somehow, I would not count on NFL teams not raising ticket prices for their present and newly "captive" audiences. Cable and satellite contracts will also logically require adjustment with little doubt that fan's bills will likewise see a rise for the "privilege" of watching an additional 2 regular season games.

    See article: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2010-08-24-owners-debate-expanded-season_N.htm
     
  2. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    I have very mixed feelings about an 18 game season, I think more negative ones that positive ones. The starters playing more games means more injuries, so will the teams roster size increase to make up for this?
     
  3. WWJD

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    I heard Goose Gosselin talk on a radio show yesterday and he had these ideas about changing the current season:

    go to 18 regular season games with an extra bye week.

    do away with preseason as it currently exists and go to 2 controlled practice games. One at your home training camp. One away.

    He felt sure there would be a lockout next season; he has no idea how long it would last but he said the main issue is always going to be money related.
     
  4. ChampionTexan

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    Marcellus Wiley had an interesting point on this. He said as a player, he'd much rather play two additional regular season games than go through the two weeks of preseason that would be eliminated. His point was that even if your only playing a series or two in those games, the training camp atmosphere between pre-season games is far more grueling than what goes on during the week in the regular season.

    I think that an 18 game season would include both increased roster size, more game-day active players, and a revision to the IR rules to let players return in-season (after a minimum period of time) rather than having be simply the remainder of the season.
     
  5. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    Here's my idea.

    Preserve the 16 game format, but remove two pre-season games and replace them with 2 bye weeks. That would give 19 weeks of actual football season as opposed to 17, and you could do bye weeks in 3 blocks of 4 week spans. So if your team has a bye in week 4, then they would have a bye in week 8 and 12 as well. The last three weeks would have no bye weeks, so you still have a strong ending to the season with all the playoff contention.

    This system would have 8 teams on byes at a time instead of 4 or 6, but the season still goes longer without actually increasing the number of games. You would get to see more games from teams that are not in your local market, which may also create some interest among fans who would otherwise not see teams from the opposite coast. It would also give players a bit more time to recover or to rest nagging injuries. But it is a tough sell to the owners because they lose 1 home preseason game without much compensation, unless the TV revenue increases from having 2 extra weeks of meaningful football on TV.

    Thoughts?
     
  6. gwallaia

    gwallaia Moderator Staff Member

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    Expanding the regular season by two games will also effect the new records that would be established.

    1,000 yd rushers will really be no big deal at all with 18 games. All-time passing and rushing leaders, etc. would have their records more easily and quickly broken.

    I'm just waiting for the owners to stick it to the fans with much higher ticket and concession prices.
     
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    From a fan/consumer standpoint, more games should equate to cheaper tickets, as there is more supply now available, and a slightly smaller demand.

    The owners may still raise ticket prices though...
     
  8. gwallaia

    gwallaia Moderator Staff Member

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    I thought the total number of games would remain the same and that the pre-season would be cut to just two games.
     


  9. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    Baseball and basketball both lost me because of overt commercialization of the product, player strikes, and insane salaries for cry baby pro athletics. It would take a lot for football to drive me away, but it can be done I suppose.

    I’m to the point now where I don’t finically support the football product anymore. I don’t go to games, don’t buy jerseys, just watch it on TV and that’s it. I would hate to think the NFL could do something as horrible as the NBA or MLB did. I hope not anyways, because Sundays would be awful boring without football.
     
  10. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I do not want to see any sort of change at all but I wouldn't get upset if the preseason simply shrunk to a pair of games instead of four. Yes, I just said I'd prefer less football. No, I'm not running a fever. I think 18 games is too many for a regular season. I'd prefer players took less of a beating.
     
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    Agreed. With all the off-season training and team activities that go on, they just don't need a month of pre-season games any more. Chop 2 pre-season games off and stick with a 16 game schedule. And maybe you could throw in an extra bye week as well. An 18 week regular season with 2 bye weeks, and having the pre-season cut in half. Perfect!!
     
  12. CloakNNNdagger

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    When is the last time you saw the league or teams drop or even hold prices for more product..........unless, of course, they were having a "fire sale" trying to avoid worse consequences, e.g., "blackout" or franchise move?
     
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    Which is exactly why the idea that they would simply eliminate two preseason games without replacing them with regular season games is laughable.

    For me, I say give me 18 RS games. I just don't see the difference of converting two pre-season games (and two weeks of pre-season practice) to two regular season games as that big a deal. I'll take more real football thank you.

    As to the stats - it's football. Jim Brown played 12 games a year the first four seasons of his career - then went to 14. Nobody really cared about that when Walther Payton broke his all-time record. O.J. Simpson played 14 games the season he broke the 2,000 yard barrier the first time. It gets mentioned, but the fact that every NFL rusher who has subsequently gone over 2,000 yards did it in a 16 game season doesn't really taint the accomplishment.

    The NFL played 12 games up until 1961. They played 14 games up until 1978. Folks adjust - the NFL is not a statistics driven league.
     
  14. Double Barrel

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    Injuries are my chief concern, as well. Watching a bunch of second/third stringers in the playoffs is not a good product.

    I'd rather see the NFL get rid of conferences. Just have 8 division winners and 4 wildcards. Then you won't have an 8-8 wildcard from one conference make the playoffs with an 11-5 or 10-6 from the other conference not make the playoffs. 8-8 wildcard teams are not playoff worthy, IMO. Conferences have outlived themselves with the playoffs structured like they are now. The two best teams should be in the Super Bowl, not a conference championship game.
     
  15. ChampionTexan

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    The problem is the 8-8 (or worse) teams in the playoffs have gotten there because they won their divison - not as wildcards, and your system wouldn't change that.
     
  16. Thorn

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    You know DB, I think I like your idea there of getting rid of the conferances. :thinking:
     
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    yeah, this is true, but at least division games still mean something. You would still have the potential of 8-8 division winners, but at least it greatly reduces a .500 wildcard team.

    Thanks, man! I've been rolling this idea around in my head for awhile, and with the exception of nostalgia about the merger of the NFL & AFL, I don't see the point of conferences these days.
     
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    Considering the number of old NFL teams in the AFL conferance, it doesn't really have any real meaning any more other than as a label for the conferance. No one really cares about their "trophy" for winning the AFC or the NFC, if they don't get the REAL trophy at the Super Bowl it doesn't mean much.
     
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    But, how would you determine who played in the pro bowl for which side? There's always gotta be sides! Would you change it to a North/South or East/West?
     
  20. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    there's always someone in the crowd that will stick a pin in your balloon. LOL

    Good point though.
     

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