Own Worst Enemy

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  1. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Good article from the stateofthetexans...
    http://www.stateofthetexans.com/texans-are-their-own-worst-enemies/
     
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  2. Uncle Rico

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    Hmmmm, sounds familiar.
     
  3. Double Barrel

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    The game is clearly evolving (as it always has), and the coaches who experience consistent success evolve with it.

    And obviously it helps to have a QB who can consistently move the ball and do so when it really counts under pressure and at the end of games.

    Right now, we have neither the head coach nor the QB that can exploit the modern NFL at a championship level. 12-4 is a nice record, but when the wins rarely come against quality and elite teams, it feels like a paper tiger.
     
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    Sounds like McNair was pissed about Schaub being put in.

    I think it's safe to say keenum will start the remainder of the year.
     
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    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    The way the NFL game is incorporating the read zone, the wildcat and other methods of getting more production from the QB position why isn't Jordon Lynch getting more attention. The myth that you have to be 6'4 to succeed as an NFL QB seems to have been debunked recently.

    :coffee:
     
  6. WolverineFan

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    The NFL is an ever changing and evolving league and the best teams evolve. Just look at the Patriots. They were a wide open spread offense, then a TE heavy offense, then a run heavy offense. They have gone from 3-4 to multiple on defense and run a myriad of looks against offenses. They are always evolving and finding the best way to utilize their talent.

    Then you have Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips, who have run the exact same systems for 10 years and haven't changed a damn thing.
     
  7. EVOLVIST

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    I don't like to quote myself, but in this case I will given that I just posted this in the Keenum thread. Odd.

     
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    So then Case should bust out of his cocoon and take the league by storm now that Kubiak isn't handcuffing him, I mean he's that good right?

    I thought I read Keenums #s were better with Kubiak on the sideline, go figure.
     


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    Kubiak being fired is Keenum's death knell as a starter. New coach will bring in new QB. I really would be surprised if Lovie/David Shah/Whisenhunt or whoever rolls with Keenum.
     
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    With Kubiak running a traditional outdated offense and Case coming from a modern spread offense, it's almost like the two were never meant for each other.

    I hope they bring in an O.C. like Sumlin.
     
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    Are you talking to me? Because I have no idea what Keenum is going to do...and neither do you. I just like my football with Ws on the end. I don't care who takes us to the promised land, even if it's Moses under center.

    I'm just glad Kubes took a powder. But yes I believe every word of what I said...err, wrote.
     
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    Very true about the Patriots.

    So, the first step is to get ourselves a Hall of Fame caliber QB. :thinking:
     
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    And know how to properly cheat.
     
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    Ehh, evolution denotes something changing & i don't necessarily know if that's true about the game as a whole. Yes, you've got a few new wrinkles being made in terms of success of certain offenses & how the qb position is viewed, but when it comes down to it in the playoffs, you've still got to play stout defense & be able to run the ball when you want to & have an elite triggerman under center...or at least a guy who has elite level talent back there....

    The only thing that's really happening imo is there are many more roads being discovered showing these college coaches how to come into the NFL and from the college ranks and have immediate success... The spread offense & the short atypical sized qb's are helping to facilitate that.
     
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    I'm an A&M student and I'll tell you the spread offense ain't all that.
     
  16. tvaughan

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    Yep.
     
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    If it is, it will because Case didn't play well enough. All anyone, especially a UFA can ask, is the chance to show their stuff. Case is getting that. If the next coach feels like that gives him the best chance to win, I have no doubt they will play him.
     
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    Ridiculous. You think the game "evolved" that much in the last eight months or so? Of course not.

    There's nothing wrong with the offensive system. Schaub just wasn't quite good enough to win big with. No, he's not horrible, he's just not on the level Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees level.

    Same thing with the defense. It needs health and a good draft or two much more than an overhaul of the system.
     
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    I was a Kubiak fan and excited when Phillips was hired. The fact is that both relied too much on their systems. Neither adjusted when needed. Many games were lost because the systems failed. The system couldn't put players in position to succeed.

    Coaches that fail to keep evolving their systems will become extinct.
     
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    Teams figured out keys and hot routes on blitzes. Schaub knew his so he was intercepted repeatedly. Case didn't know them near as well so defenses couldn't use it to the same effect. Kubes never changed them..."that's on him."
     

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