Out of nowhere pick

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  1. Maddict5

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    ok so the last two years, the new admin have made two very unexpected 1st round picks..

    in 06, nobody thought we'd take mario because of a certain mr reggie bush
    in 07, we took amobi after he unexpectedly slipped to #10

    in 08, does anybody see the choice being anything other than the widespread albert/williams/jenkins/talib/stewart predictions and if so who do you think is a possible candidate?

    does a player fall or do we supposedly 'reach' for somebody?

    note: i started this thread because i had a dream last night where we chose quentin groves at #18 :fans:

    also cason at #18 wouldn't surprise me either
     
  2. nunusguy

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    Smith & Kubiak are talking openly about the need to get a LT, and how this might be the Draft to do it since so many are in the years Draft. Trouble is
    the ones the Texans want (especially Chris Williams & Brandon Albert), will
    be off the Board before the 18th pick.
    I'm concluding all of this talk means one of 2 things: its a smokescreen and the Texans don't intend to pick any Olineman in the first round and have
    priorities higher than that for their #18 and Gibbs has a player(s) he likes for his system in later rounds, OR they are completely serious about their desire to take a top LT in round and will actually move up in this Draft to get one since they feel that's necessary - the guy(s) they want won't fall to them at #18.
     
  3. Kaiser Toro

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    Speak for yourself. I thought it was clear and expected that we would take Williams in 2006.

    I think they are looking at BPA at the LT and CB positions.
     
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    It was definitely NOT clear to me we were going to take Mario until just a day or two before the draft....when the contract announcement was made. I think that was unexpected for most of us and fans of the NFL.
     
  5. YoungTexanFan

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    I think Keith Rivers is a name that could be a surprise for some fans. He would easily be BPA at 18.
     
  6. Polo

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    Been calling for Keith Rivers for a while...

    I think that's a pick that could really help our defense...
     
  7. nunusguy

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    So true. I think most of us were stunned. I know I was.
    But I think the intention all along was to take Bush, but for whatever
    reason(s) that changed in the last few days leading up to the Draft.
    Of course whatever actually happened in those days is still a subject of debate, but I think the majority of us are now happy we took Mario instead of Bush.
     
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    I agree. A darkhorse, but if he's on the Board and the LTs & CBs Smith & Kubiak like I think they could take KR.
     


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    At 18 he may be just too much to pass up. Would be an upgrade to our LB's and would be better at OLB than Demeco would be, and would allow us to keep him inside while taking a BPA who happens to be a LB.
     
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    I reckon Rivers would play SAM LB, correct? How well does he cover TE's and RB's? Just curious:cool:
     
  11. threetoedpete

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    Go re-watch the senior bowl practices. Why a top fifteen guy would tank a drill is beyond me....but there are those who say it does not matter. (YTF, there is no respond to this post. Let's keep the thread moving). He covers like your granny. Only pick which would be worse is groves.
     
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    Theres a few players I think they might look at with the 18th pick that might surprise some fans.

    Kenny Phillips
    keith Rivers
    Jerrod Mayo
    Phillip Merling

    and to a less extent Derrick Harvey.
     
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    Correct me if Im wrong but I think Deon Sanders has gotten burned a few times. Same with champ etc....

    Your talking about the freakin senior bowl. Not the combine, team workouts, National championship games. The senior bowl.
     
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    You mean DE Groves from Auburn ? I thought LZ was going to get his nut
    the other day when he was talking about this guy. I've really never heard
    much at about him, how come you take such strong exception with what
    LZ had to say about him. LZ couldn't stop talking about him on his Draft show.
    BTW, if the Texans did happen to draft KR, he's most likely a WIL because of his athleticism.
     
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    You are what you do. I see no bigger reach, reaching for Babbin or reaching for the number with Rivers. Same animal. Want a lump of clay to work with hold your water and pick Cliff avrill or Ezra Butler .
     
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    Groves is more of a positional question. He is a pass-rushing demon, though may be best suited for a 3-4 OLB, similar to Demarcus Ware.

    You are right, Rivers will play WILL in a 4-3 most likely.
     
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    I'm gonna have to qoute someone on this one.

     
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    Are you comparing Babin to Keith Rivers?
    and
    Are you comparing our old regime with our new one?
     
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    Babbin was a situational pass-rusher disguised as a 3-4 OLB. He couldn't make the switch from DE. Rivers is a traditional OLB. Maybe you are mistaking him for a DE? He did play DE when USC needed him to and asked him to, but he is by no means a DE, and in no way is he similar to Babbin at all. If you don't think we should pick him fine, but to throw something like that out there is pointless to our cause.
     
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    and he(Groves) has an injury history....if they had all seven picks... be one thing to gamble like that....but they don't. they have to be drop dead sure as they can be with every pick they got. I'm not in the room but I expect Mr. Gorves is only on the radar of teams with more than seven picks. He is not on the Texan's board.
     

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