Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by Grid, Feb 27, 2005.
Rams traded Orlando Pace to the Giants for Amani Toomer, Will Allen and a 2nd round pick.
LIES! its all LIES!
(the cowboys part that is.. the Giants/Raiders trade is true.. at least at this point)
Hold on let me get this str8. You are telling me that in addition to Torry Holt and Issac Bruce the Rams also now have Armani Toomer. That's got to be the best WR corp in the leauge hands down if it wasn't already.
And what were the Giants thinking? Did they really need an O-Lineman that bad. Toomer, Allen and a 2nd round pick is alot!!!
...The Giants STOLE this trade.
Are you saying that the Giants got the better end of the trade?
They really needed an olineman. their line is almost as bad as ours.. but without the upside.
btw im deleting the Cowboy post. it was a rumor that spread real quick and got turned into truth.
Let's see....You have a second year QB who got rocked last year. They "lost" a Safety that got burned more than a pizza baking at 500 for an hour, an average WR and 2nd rounder for a TOP 3 LT in the league??? Yea...I'd say they won.
Well if their line was as bad as ours i guess that trade would make since. It's nice to know that some NFL teams take pride in protecting their QB's who are supposed to be the future of the franchise.
Decent trades by both teams, but a couple flaws...
Rams have pretty much told Issac Bruce to go find himself somewhere else to play. (Unless they bring him back(re-sign,hes a UFA) and put Toomer in the Slot.) Allen is an up and coming CB and has speed and can cover pretty good. That being said, the Rams OL takes a BIG hit...no Pace, no Turley. They might struggle to protect Bulger.
Giants FINALLY....FINALLY have someone that can block that doesnt have the name "Luke Petitgout"....the 2nd rd pick IS a bit much,seeing as they lost that #12 with the deal for Manning. Allen was big in pass defense with Peterson being out for a long period of time....and Toomer was really their only WR that was worth talking about.
All in all...both teams lose and gain in this deal.
Winner of the trade as of now...i'll say STL, only cuz they get a good CB in the process.
BTW.. The Redskins "allegedly" signed Samari Rolle. the source isnt very reliable though so take that with a grain of salt.
can i get a link?
nope.. everything is rumors and "inside sources" right now. Wont be any real news announcements until FA has officially began.
BTW.. in related news.. if the Rams get Toomer it is rumored/assumed that they will release Bruce.
oh and also.. this was supposedly announced on ESPN radio.. but rams fans and insiders are saying that it may not be true.. or that it may be true, but the deal is different. Supposedly the giants want picks from the Rams.. either that.. or its a 2nd rounder NEXT year.
Yeah, the Redskins signed Rolle...if they did, that means they have money. I KNOW FOR DAMN SURE THEY AIN'T GOT A DIME TO SPEND IN FREE AGENCY! That is all.
*takes that with that salt grain!*
exactly.. which is why i said take that with a grain of salt.
This is an odd trade. I dont see the Rams needing a WR like toomer. Allen makes sense, and so does the pick, but thats all. I would have pulled the trigger on that deal if I was the giants GM.
I actually wish the texans would have put together a package like that for Pace.
That hurts man. You had my hopes up.
Ok it may have been a steal, but let me remind you that it is Eli Manning and not Peyton we are talking about. Eli hasn't done anything yet, but show potential. Just cause he'll have blockers doesn't mean he'll be like his big bro.
Cough Harrison cough Wayne cough Stokely cough
Amazing trade however, if it happens
Eli's second year he gets Orlando Pace to cover his back, but DC got Seth
Wand. I dunno, could understand DC being a little bit envious (and maybe
a little pi### off to ) about that. But the G-men know how to take care of their young QB.
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